Tyrant "depowered" vs. Odin

Originally posted by quanchi112
A Thanos clone is helluva lot different than the real deal as well.

True, but you were the one who made the statement that a Thanos clone with prep could take out Odin as if trying to somehow prove Thanos' superiority. You just failed to mentioned it was a weak Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again thanos didnt object to Tyrant saying he would remedy the situation. But this Thanos clone overrides the battle I saw myself on panel.

You didn't see Tyrant kill Thanos, either. All you know is Thanos believed Tyrant would. From what the clone said, Thanos also believed Odin beat him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wheres your scan anyways?

I put up the scan you asked for.

Did you not see when I said I would look for the scan? I'll put it up when I find it, so calm down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think one more blast from either of these powerhouses can have more than a little affect.

I'm sure it would, but during the span of both battles, Thanos was more hurt by Odin than he was against Tyrant, and you've always claimed otherwise without any support other than torn clothes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not acting stupid. You are grasping and now your argument centers around Tyrant being more serious and more angry than Odin. Speculation.

Hmm.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who knows exactly what happened in the first fight. I know what happened in the second one.

We know that a Tyrant far more powerful than the one Galactus faced the second time lost. We know he didn't absorb Galactus' blasts, because he was put on his ass by an eye blast from Galactus. He was also depowered by Galactus using eye blasts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said it was pis or not with Thanos. You seem to cry pis when you dont like something especially when it concerns Tyrant's power set.

You said:

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wolvie hasnt pierced him since then so maybe its pis or maybe Thanos allowed him to to turn his bones into rubber. We wont know..

So you're at least willing to consider it being PIS but not the Tyrant-Galactus fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To make sure he was ready for an all out battle. Galactus can do more than just blast. 😉

Wait, I thought you said Galactus was all out of options and was desperate because Tyrant absorbed his blasts. What has changed now?

Originally posted by llagrok
- Thanos' clone had one-sided prep.
- He claimed that Odin had beaten him in their earlier encounter
- Do you know what a clone is dumbshitchi?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
True, but you were the one who made the statement that a Thanos clone with prep could take out Odin as if trying to somehow prove Thanos' superiority. You just failed to mentioned it was a weak Odin.

You didn't see Tyrant kill Thanos, either. All you know is Thanos believed Tyrant would. From what the clone said, Thanos also believed Odin beat him.

Did you not see when I said I would look for the scan? I'll put it up when I find it, so calm down.

Again you are comparing Thanos to what a clone said. I saw both fights.

I am calm. I have the issues but I am not looking through each and every page for this Thanos clone comment when I saw the fight myself.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I'm sure it would, but during the span of both battles, Thanos was more hurt by Odin than he was against Tyrant, and you've always claimed otherwise without any support other than torn clothes.

Hmm.

We know that a Tyrant far more powerful than the one Galactus faced the second time lost. We know he didn't absorb Galactus' blasts, because he was put on his ass by an eye blast from Galactus. He was also depowered by Galactus using eye blasts.

You said:

So you're at least willing to consider it being PIS but not the Tyrant-Galactus fight.

Wait, I thought you said Galactus was all out of options and was desperate because Tyrant absorbed his blasts. What has changed now?

Thanos would have been smiling if he showed up and was taking from odin as well. He had different motives for both battles thats why he was smiling during the Tyrant battle and why he wasnt smiling during the Odin one.

Yes I dont know. I dont like to say pis or use that as an excuse.

Also note in the scans tyrant is grabbing Thanos and throwing him around while Thanos charges right through Odin blasts and grabs a hold of gungir.

We dont know really as the fight wasnt shown in its entirety. All I know for certain is how the second battle went.

Galactus was desperate and used tech as he thought it would get him an easy win but I am sure with his vast versatile powers he had more options but the option he chose backfired on him bigtime.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A high model Thanos clone could take out Odin. Prove he was weakened.

Why else was Tarakis giving him the potion to begin with? To restore his strength. Thanos didn't do anything special. All he did was have Tarakis replace a potion he was already going to give to Odin with one that would hurt him. Big deal.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again you are comparing Thanos to what a clone said. I saw both fights.

The clone had Thanos' knowledge of the fight. He knows what happened.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am calm. I have the issues but I am not looking through each and every page for this Thanos clone comment when I saw the fight myself.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Why else was Tarakis giving him the potion to begin with? To restore his strength. Thanos didn't do anything special. All he did was have Tarakis replace a potion he was already going to give to Odin with one that would hurt him. Big deal.

The clone had Thanos' knowledge of the fight. He knows what happened.

Not even Thanos but merely a clone.

Thanos didnt lose he was losing. I saw the battle. Odin doesnt ask him to tap out if he lost already. 😬

It is funny seeing this clone pretty much laugh in Odins face.

😂 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos was happy that he withstood Tyrant and he was leaving with his orb.

That's right. He was. It doesn't change that he didn't look more injured in that fight than the Odin one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos would have been smiling if he showed up and was taking from odin as well. He had different motives for both battles thats why he was smiling during the Tyrant battle and why he wasnt smiling during the Odin one.

He also struggled to get to his feet against Odin and not Tyrant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes I dont know. I dont like to say pis or use that as an excuse.

But it's obviously the case in some instances.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Also note in the scans tyrant is grabbing Thanos and throwing him around while Thanos charges right through Odin blasts and grabs a hold of gungir.

What does grabbing Thanos have anything to do with it? It proves Tyrant can lift 980 pounds. Big deal.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We dont know really as the fight wasnt shown in its entirety. All I know for certain is how the second battle went.

But we do know that Tyrant was hurt by the blast and fell to the ground. We also know Galactus drained Tyrant using his eye blasts. If the depowered version of Tyrant could absorb Galactus' blasts and become strong enough to dominate him according to you, then it makes no sense that the strongest incarnation of Tyrant wouldn't be able to do the same, if Tyrant's always had that power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus was desperate and used tech as he thought it would get him an easy win but I am sure with his vast versatile powers he had more options but the option he chose backfired on him bigtime.

😆 If he was desperate, then how could he have more options. Usually desperation comes when you run out of options.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prep shows Thanos can easily take Odin out.

Not even Thanos but merely a clone.

Thanos didnt lose he was losing. I saw the battle. Odin doesnt ask him to tap out if he lost already. 😬

It is funny seeing this clone pretty much laugh in Odins face.

😂 😂

Prep doesn't show anything but a clone Thanos getting someone else to take out a weakened Odin. It was also a clone that made the real Thanos worry. 😛

Originally posted by celestialdemon
That's right. He was. It doesn't change that he didn't look more injured in that fight than the Odin one.

He also struggled to get to his feet against Odin and not Tyrant.

But it's obviously the case in some instances.

What does grabbing Thanos have anything to do with it? It proves Tyrant can lift 980 pounds. Big deal.

But we do know that Tyrant was hurt by the blast and fell to the ground. We also know Galactus drained Tyrant using his eye blasts. If the depowered version of Tyrant could absorb Galactus' blasts and become strong enough to dominate him according to you, then it makes no sense that the strongest incarnation of Tyrant wouldn't be able to do the same, if Tyrant's always had that power.

😆 If he was desperate, then how could he have more options. Usually desperation comes when you run out of options.

He got to his feet in both but his shirt was destroyed in less attacks from tyrant.

It proves Tyrant can whip him around while Odin didnt show any of this. Thanos showed he can shrug off some blasts and tear up asgard while his shirt remained intact.

Who knows what happened or how Tyrant changed over the years. All speculation. The second fight the one we saw had Tyrant dominate Galactus.

Sometimes in the heat of battle you dont always make the right decisions. You arent level headed and you dont always have time to think what is your next best choice when someone is crapping all over you.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Prep doesn't show anything but a clone Thanos getting someone else to take out a weakened Odin. It was also a clone that made the real Thanos worry. 😛

A clone of Galactus made the real Thanos worry. 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again the Thanos clone talked trash to Odin and he looked powerless and completely floored. He had no idea this shows you what a clone can do with prep.

Again, an Odin who was already weak to begin with. You have nothing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A clone of Galactus made the real Thanos worry. 😉

That one did as well as the one from the Odin incident.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Again, an Odin who was already weak to begin with. You have nothing.

That one did as well as the one from the Odin incident.

He is just a powerful clone.

When did Thanos worry and go up against this clone?

He was worried about engaging Omega because of the power he contained. He could easily defeat the other clones but only worried about the havoc they could wreak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos had different motives in the Tyrant fight. Tyrant did more damage with less attacks and Thanos didnt take any of Tyrants attacks as easily as he did Odins first. Thanos also ran right throug his blast and ran right up to him.

Tyrant didn't do more damage with less attacks. You are speculating. Thanos didn't try to block any of Tyrant's attacks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He got to his feet in both but his shirt was destroyed in less attacks from tyrant.

His shirt? Oh no. Talk about power!

Originally posted by quanchi112
It proves Tyrant can whip him around while Odin didnt show any of this. Thanos showed he can shrug off some blasts and tear up asgard while his shirt remained intact.

Lots of people have the power to toss Thanos around. All it takes is grabbing him and throwing. Doesn't mean anything. Thanos shrugged off some of Odin's blast, yet he couldn't harm Odin in the slightest and struggled to even stand.

Thanos didn't tear up Asgard, unless you count him getting blasted into the city as him tearing it up.

Ah, the mighty shirt! notworthy

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who knows what happened or how Tyrant changed over the years. All speculation. The second fight the one we saw had Tyrant dominate Galactus.

So in the billions of years since the first fight to the standoff, Tyrant doesn't have the ability to absorb bse. In the couple of years from the standoff to the battle, he mysteriously acquires it. Yeah, that sounds like brilliant writing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sometimes in the heat of battle you dont always make the right decisions. You arent level headed and you dont always have time to think what is your next best choice when someone is crapping all over you.

So Galactus' billions of years of experience and who knows how many battles causes him to not think straight and make a wrong move when faced with an opponent who doesn't even have the ability to harm him. Again, sounds like brilliant writing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again a Thanos clone who isnt anywhere near as powerful as the real Thanos.

He is just a powerful clone.

How do you know if the clone was or wasn't "anywhere near as powerful as the real Thanos"?

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did Thanos worry and go up against this clone?

He was worried about engaging Omega because of the power he contained. He could easily defeat the other clones but only worried about the havoc they could wreak.

Why would Thanos be worried about the havok that one could wreak if he could destroy it at any time since it was so less powerful than himself?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Tyrant didn't do more damage with less attacks. You are speculating. Thanos didn't try to block any of Tyrant's attacks.

His shirt? Oh no. Talk about power!

Lots of people have the power to toss Thanos around. All it takes is grabbing him and throwing. Doesn't mean anything. Thanos shrugged off some of Odin's blast, yet he couldn't harm Odin in the slightest and struggled to even stand.

Thanos didn't tear up Asgard, unless you count him getting blasted into the city as him tearing it up.

Ah, the mighty shirt! notworthy

So in the billions of years since the first fight to the standoff, Tyrant doesn't have the ability to absorb bse. In the couple of years from the standoff to the battle, he mysteriously acquires it. Yeah, that sounds like brilliant writing.

So Galactus' billions of years of experience and who knows how many battles causes him to not think straight and make a wrong move when faced with an opponent who doesn't even have the ability to harm him. Again, sounds like brilliant writing.

Geez you act like Odin totally beat on him when his shirt was still fine.

🙄

Again Thanos didnt easily take any of Tyrants attacks. While he was wading through some of Odins gungir blasts.

The collateral damage tore up asgard. While Odin was focusing his attacks on Thanos and his shirt withstood direct attacks while asgard couldnt withstand indirect attacks.
😂

Quit speculating. He can absorb bse and you whining about it over and over again really does get old. It happened its canon and accept it. Dont give me your list of reasons why you think it sucks.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
How do you know if the clone was or wasn't "anywhere near as powerful as the real Thanos"?

Why would Thanos be worried about the havok that one could wreak if he could destroy it at any time since it was so less powerful than himself?

He could destroy it but he didnt know where all these clones were. They could destroy creation and were nihilistic and they wouldnt even have to face Thanos.

Did you not read the celestial quest? Did you see what kinds of crap that clone was getting himself into.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes he did. Thanos didnt block Odins first attack he just stood right there and took it not even budging. He budged when Tyrant attacked.

But he was having a hard time standing after the fight, wasn't he?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Geez you act like Odin totally beat on him when his shirt was still fine.

Who gives a sh*t about his shirt? His clothes were fine when he got beat down by the Magus, took a blast from Galactus that had him begging for mercy, and took a gigantic blast from the Maker that left him knocked out for a few seconds (and that wasn't even his normal clothes). You cling on to his shirt because that's all you have.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Thanos didnt easily take any of Tyrants attacks. While he was wading through some of Odins gungir blasts.

Yet he was standing and smiling after all of Tyrant's attacks and the explosion. He had to struggle to get up from Odin, and that was after being on all fours for a few seconds to recover.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The collateral damage tore up asgard. While Odin was focusing his attacks on Thanos and his shirt withstood direct attacks while asgard couldnt withstand indirect attacks.
😂

Yes, it is a mighty shirt. Galactus made Thanos beg for mercy with a single blast, but damn that shirt! Argh!

After the collateral damage, Odin was standing there unfazed and unharmed. Thanos was on the ground trying to recover.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit speculating. He can absorb bse and you whining about it over and over again really does get old. It happened its canon and accept it. Dont give me your list of reasons why you think it sucks.

You're the one who starting speculating that Galactus must have used his tech because he was desperate with absolutely on proof whatsoever. At least my speculations are based on logic, and I don't pass them off as fact the way you try to. The fact is Tyrant has never been shown to be able to absorb bse before this story. If he could, he wouldn't need a damn machine to absorb Morg's power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because this clone didnt upgrade himself after the end or get upgraded by mistress death.

What the hell are you talking about? The clone was created after his upgrade by Mistress Death but before The End upgrade.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You see if Thanos could just upgrade himself as powerful as mistress death could why would he even needed her to do it. Common sense really.

When did I ever say he could upgrade himself to be as powerful as Mistress Death?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The only clone that was more powerful than himself was Omega and that was due to Galactus dna.

That we know for sure, true.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He could destroy it but he didnt know where all these clones were. They could destroy creation and were nihilistic and they wouldnt even have to face Thanos.

Why would he not know where it is? He himself said he set it after Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Did you not read the celestial quest? Did you see what kinds of crap that clone was getting himself into.

I read it. That wasn't the same clone that invaded Asgard. That clone was killed by Thor and the Designate.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
But he was having a hard time standing after the fight, wasn't he?

Who gives a sh*t about his shirt? His clothes were fine when he got beat down by the Magus, took a blast from Galactus that had him begging for mercy, and took a gigantic blast from the Maker that left him knocked out for a few seconds (and that wasn't even his normal clothes). You cling on to his shirt because that's all you have.

Yet he was standing and smiling after all of Tyrant's attacks and the explosion. He had to struggle to get up from Odin, and that was after being on all fours for a few seconds to recover.

Yes, it is a mighty shirt. Galactus made Thanos beg for mercy with a single blast, but damn that shirt! Argh!

After the collateral damage, Odin was standing there unfazed and unharmed. Thanos was on the ground trying to recover.

You're the one who starting speculating that Galactus must have used his tech because he was desperate with absolutely on proof whatsoever. At least my speculations are based on logic, and I don't pass them off as fact the way you try to. The fact is Tyrant has never been shown to be able to absorb bse before this story. If he could, he wouldn't need a damn machine to absorb Morg's power.

The shirt to me signifies the artist's intentions here. He showed asgard being easily trashed while Thanos and his clothers for that mater being in better shape than that of asgard.

Thanos was stated to be in worse shape though in the comic against Galactus.

Thanos got up and said no to Odins question. The guy thought he previously beat Thanos but Thanos corrected him.

Your speculations arent based on anything and you continually say its bad writing. That isnt a good way to debate. You nitpick everything an din the end say Galactus should have won and complain.

Does Morg absorb planets for his energy source? Does he himself need to feed to survive? Oh thats right thats just Galactus and not his heralds. 😉