Tyrant "depowered" vs. Odin

Originally posted by quanchi112
We arent ever going to have everything explained as black and white. Where would the fun be in debating if we knew whod win every scenario if it was just told to us. Common sense tells us and the fact they didnt o danything greater than the real Thanos. Feats are a great indicator.

One clone was convincing enough for Mistress Death to use him against the Rot, so he must have been pretty close to the real Thanos' power level.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos had it set up.

And had to convince someone else to help him do it because he couldn't do it himself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes it proves when a clone wants asgard that Odin can be easily taken out.

But only if he has the pre-condition that Odin is already weak. There's no proof that he could do it against a normal Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Thanos created Omega and stated he was more powerful. So according to the writer in this story he was.

Its canon. Just because Galactus didnt teleport it means nothing. I could very easily say when Thanos was killed by Drax he forgot he could kill Drax and then release Galactus immediately afterwards. There was no countdown to oblivion. What happened is what happened we cant sat he could have done this or this. Nope it happened and its canon.

Again Thanos wanted Galactus captured and it was done. Thanos wanted him to be released and it happened. Galactus couldnt do a thing to stop Thanos and had to rely on others to get released.

Thanos wanted him released and never fully trusted Annihilus.

And that was proved by the very same writer not to be the case by giving Omega the lacking amount of feats to be compared with Galactus.

The Killing of Thanos by Drax is canon too, actually it does it's PIS when a Character that has previous shown teleportations numerous times suddenly forgets that he can teleport, the difference is that Thanos had his forcefield up and still underestimated Drax while focus on letting Galactus lose, hence CIS not PIS like forgetting ones abilities which Thanos didn't.

Thanos wanted Galactus captured correct, but you giving the entire credit for his capture to Thanos is dead wrong since it wasn't Thanos that made Tenebrous and Aegis seek out Galactus. Thanos wanted him released because he had no other options that was useable, and Thanos got killed in the progress. Galactus couldn't do anything because he was being held in a stasis feeding him only the absolutely required energy, and Galactus relied on others just like Thanos had to rely on others to realise Galactus when Thanos had his heart torn out.

He didn't trust Annihilus however he failed to take apropriate meassures and Thanos wouldn't have discovered it had it not been for Moondragon.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
True.

So if you are willing to make so many excuses for Thanos being more hurt than Tyrant, how can you possibly use the end result of each battle as proof that Tyrant is more powerful than Odin?

I've accepted it, but I'm in no way going to use it as proof that Tyrant is even close to Galactus in level or as proof that he can beat Odin because of it.

It does if it was created specifically for this battle and only to allow him to absorb Galactus' energy, which was mysteriously changed from Power Cosmic to bse energy for this story also.

He absorbed the energy Galactus released, which is the same kind of energy all the heralds possess.

Tyrant did better against a well prepped Thanos than Odin did in a longer fight with a weaponless unprepped Thanos. Imo Tyrant did more damage wit less strikes.

It is proof why. His power is more than Odins. He can defeat Galactus while Odin never could and he did more damage to Thanos than Odin had in less time. Galactus wouldnt back down from Odin he would pwn him right there thats the difference friend.

Again Galactus always fed on planets. Nothing was changed. Tyrant powerset was explained in this story.

The other heralds dont absorb the bse energy from planets do they?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
One clone was convincing enough for Mistress Death to use him against the Rot, so he must have been pretty close to the real Thanos' power level.

And had to convince someone else to help him do it because he couldn't do it himself.

But only if he has the pre-condition that Odin is already weak. There's no proof that he could do it against a normal Odin.

He used someone else to do something for him. Do you realize how many times great villains do this? Loki,Luthor,Darkseid,Thanos,Dr. Doom,etc.

Geez I mean why would I do something myself when I could have someone else do it just as easily.

Again an inferiro Thanos clone easily pwned Odin when he wanted it down. If you think the real Thanos woul dbe stumped if he wanted asgard then I suspect you should go read his respect threat and catch up on all his accomplishments. 😂

Originally posted by Utrigita
And that was proved by the very same writer not to be the case by giving Omega the lacking amount of feats to be compared with Galactus.

The Killing of Thanos by Drax is canon too, actually it does it's PIS when a Character that has previous shown teleportations numerous times suddenly forgets that he can teleport, the difference is that Thanos had his forcefield up and still underestimated Drax while focus on letting Galactus lose, hence CIS not PIS like forgetting ones abilities which Thanos didn't.

Thanos wanted Galactus captured correct, but you giving the entire credit for his capture to Thanos is dead wrong since it wasn't Thanos that made Tenebrous and Aegis seek out Galactus. Thanos wanted him released because he had no other options that was useable, and Thanos got killed in the progress. Galactus couldn't do anything because he was being held in a stasis feeding him only the absolutely required energy, and Galactus relied on others just like Thanos had to rely on others to realise Galactus when Thanos had his heart torn out.

He didn't trust Annihilus however he failed to take apropriate meassures and Thanos wouldn't have discovered it had it not been for Moondragon.

Drax's powers changed for this fight. He had never had these powers before so why would Thanos be aware of them. Thanos had his back turned so it wasnt an actual fight but instead a cheapshot victory.

I am not giving him all the credit. But it was a goal of his an done that he achieved through others.

Thanos wanted him released because he thought Annihilus was crazy which he was. Thanos knew Moondragon read his mind and quickly found out what was in there. He took steps in order to check on Annihilus' mind.

Ill post the next scan for you here in a second. This one is very misleading.

What Thanos has wrought Thanos can sunder.

This is the page immediately following your scan.

Oh and by the way Annihilus lost.

Yet you have no problem about stating him to be twice Galactus...

So now we are blaming Thanos lose on Drax that was enginered to kill thanos and those new powers are not contradictions to what he showed previously in the annihilation story.

It certainly sounds that way. So If I want lets say the premie minister of my country dead and another person assasinats him I can then take the credit?

And he had no other option then to release Galactus if he wanted to stop Annihilus. And it was Moondragon that told what Annihilus wanted to Thanos, Thanos didn't figure it out by himself.

Oh please it shows exactly what I'm saying, That Thanos failed to take account for Annihilus which was my point, hence Thanos grapped Moondragon by the neck and lifted her into the air. Look at read you own scan "No one plays Thanos for a Fool. There will be a reckoning..." He says himself that if Moondragon had not alerted him to Annihilus plans he wouldn't have known, hence he had been played a fool.

So shall we give the credit for Annihilus losing to Thanos too? is that what you are saying, because last time I looked it was Nova that defeated him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not making up excuses I am presenting you with facts here.

Tyrant did better against a well prepped Thanos than Odin did in a longer fight with a weaponless unprepped Thanos. Imo Tyrant did more damage wit less strikes.

Tyrant didn't do any better against Thanos than Odin did. Odin hurt Thanos more than Tyrant did, and Thanos didn't even make Odin budge. If the Tyrant fight would have gone on as long as the Odin fight, we don't know what would have happened. You are just speculating that Tyrant would have been able to make Thanos struggle to get up also.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is proof why. His power is more than Odins. He can defeat Galactus while Odin never could and he did more damage to Thanos than Odin had in less time. Galactus wouldnt back down from Odin he would pwn him right there thats the difference friend.

Show me it's more powerful. I can pull up a whole laundry list of feats Odin has done that Tyrant hasn't even gotten close to performing. The only reason he got the upper hand is because of a plot device for him to absorb bse. He is not on Galactus' level. If Odin was mysteriously granted that ability all of a sudden, he would do the same thing to Galactus.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Galactus always fed on planets. Nothing was changed. Tyrant powerset was explained in this story.

Why wasn't it explained when Thanos was reviewing his history?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The other heralds dont absorb the bse energy from planets do they?

If Tyrant absorbs bse, why doesn't he do the same thing to planets and absorb them to make himself stronger? The point is Tyrant didn't absorb the energy Galactus absorbed. He absorbed the energy Galactus emitted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maybe to the mistress death upgrade but not the end one. But again its speculation.

The clone was created before the end upgrade, so what's the point?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He used someone else to do something for him. Do you realize how many times great villains do this? Loki,Luthor,Darkseid,Thanos,Dr. Doom,etc.

And? Getting someone to do something for you isn't great prep. It's being a great manipulator. There's a difference.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Geez I mean why would I do something myself when I could have someone else do it just as easily.

Because you are not capable of doing it yourself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again an inferiro Thanos clone easily pwned Odin when he wanted it down. If you think the real Thanos woul dbe stumped if he wanted asgard then I suspect you should go read his respect threat and catch up on all his accomplishments. 😂

I'm well aware of his accomplishments being that he's my favorite character ever. I'm also well aware of his limits, unlike you. The clone Thanos didn't own anyone. All he did was convince someone to instead of giving Odin a healing potion to give him poison. He needed Tarakis to do it because he couldn't have done it himself. That's not pwning. That's taking advantage of a situation. What Galactus did to Thanos was pwning.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Yet you have no problem about stating him to be twice Galactus...

So now we are blaming Thanos lose on Drax that was enginered to kill thanos and those new powers are not contradictions to what he showed previously in the annihilation story.

It certainly sounds that way. So If I want lets say the premie minister of my country dead and another person assasinats him I can then take the credit?

And he had no other option then to release Galactus if he wanted to stop Annihilus. And it was Moondragon that told what Annihilus wanted to Thanos, Thanos didn't figure it out by himself.

Oh please it shows exactly what I'm saying, That Thanos failed to take account for Annihilus which was my point, hence Thanos grapped Moondragon by the neck and lifted her into the air. Look at read you own scan "No one plays Thanos for a Fool. There will be a reckoning..." He says himself that if Moondragon had not alerted him to Annihilus plans he wouldn't have known, hence he had been played a fool.

So shall we give the credit for Annihilus losing to Thanos too? is that what you are saying, because last time I looked it was Nova that defeated him.

Drax just changed recently after his last resurrection. Thanos really hadnt come into contact wit this new Drax whose powers changed drastically after it. Again if he hadnt had his back turned trying to free Galactus he would still be alive imo.

Both can take the credit.

Yes he had to release Galactus to stop Annihilus' huge army. But Annihilus' whole plan centered around Galactus and to stop his plan all he had to do was release him.

Thanos knew Moondragon would and then he founf this out BECAUSE he didnt trust Annihilus and did this whole thing simply because he was bored and wanted to see how it would play out.

Thanos though found out himself through Moondragon. He took the initiative and said a page later he can basically fix it.

He was pissed at Annihilus for deceiving him and was going to kick his ass. But he never fully trusted him anyways.

I dont know what you mean by this. Nova defeated Thanos with help but Thanos had nothing to do with this. He was chilling with Death.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Tyrant didn't do any better against Thanos than Odin did. Odin hurt Thanos more than Tyrant did, and Thanos didn't even make Odin budge. If the Tyrant fight would have gone on as long as the Odin fight, we don't know what would have happened. You are just speculating that Tyrant would have been able to make Thanos struggle to get up also.

Show me it's more powerful. I can pull up a whole laundry list of feats Odin has done that Tyrant hasn't even gotten close to performing. The only reason he got the upper hand is because of a plot device for him to absorb bse. He is not on Galactus' level. If Odin was mysteriously granted that ability all of a sudden, he would do the same thing to Galactus.

Why wasn't it explained when Thanos was reviewing his history?

If Tyrant absorbs bse, why doesn't he do the same thing to planets and absorb them to make himself stronger? The point is Tyrant didn't absorb the energy Galactus absorbed. He absorbed the energy Galactus emitted.

So you are asking me to change Odin's and Tyrant's powerset so Odin can replicate this high feat that he could not perform otherwise on his own. Nah. Tyrant is a creation of Galactus while Odin isnt. It seems you will stop at nothing to make Odin able to defeat Galactus which he never could.

I dont know but it was explained later. Accept it and quit complaining.

Huh? Did you read this story at all? Tyrant is more powerful the more planets remain. The more Galactus feeds on the less powerful he becomes. Tyrant was weaker after he drained this planet. But he became more powerful the moment Galactus started blasting him with the very same bse energy that he just fed on. Pretty simple actually.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
The clone was created before the end upgrade, so what's the point?

And? Getting someone to do something for you isn't great prep. It's being a great manipulator. There's a difference.

Because you are not capable of doing it yourself.

I'm well aware of his accomplishments being that he's my favorite character ever. I'm also well aware of his limits, unlike you. The clone Thanos didn't own anyone. All he did was convince someone to instead of giving Odin a healing potion to give him poison. He needed Tarakis to do it because he couldn't have done it himself. That's not pwning. That's taking advantage of a situation. What Galactus did to Thanos was pwning.

It is both. You are saying that isnt great prep and manipulation? The go hand in hand. He got someone else to completely take Odin out of the equation. Only a fool would do something he could otherwise have someone else do for him.

The Thanos clone wanted asgard and in the process he took Mangog as an ally and completely got in Odin's face after he weakened him to the point of just sitting there and taking it. Poor Odin mocked by a clone.

Galactus blasted Thanos as he was trying to help Galactus and warn him that his actions would lead to releasing an interdimensional parasite known as the Hunger.

Galactus foolishly released him looking like a complete and utter fool and Thanos cleaned up his mess.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin got in more blasts and longer concentrated ones. Thanos didnt have the orb and use it as a weapon against Tyrant. The orb is the difference but I thought we covered this about 20 times. I know that Tyrant did more damage in less time and with less hits ala his clothes.

Back to the clothes and orb, huh. You have yet to prove Thanos took more damage from Tyrant other than the extremely pointless clothes argument, and you have yet to prove how much energy was in the orb and how much it even helped Thanos in the fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you are asking me to change Odin's and Tyrant's powerset so Odin can replicate this high feat that he could not perform otherwise on his own. Nah. Tyrant is a creation of Galactus while Odin isnt. It seems you will stop at nothing to make Odin able to defeat Galactus which he never could.

No, I'm not asking you to do anything. I'm saying that the only reason why Tyrant was able to do what he did is because of a plot device, which was a power given to him specifically for this story. Because he had this ability, and only because of it was he able to do anything to Galactus. If he were to face anyone else around Galactus' level whom he couldn't do that to, he could get his ass stomped.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I dont know but it was explained later. Accept it and quit complaining.

You don't know, which is why it was a plot device used specifically for this story.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Huh? Did you read this story at all? Tyrant is more powerful the more planets remain. The more Galactus feeds on the less powerful he becomes. Tyrant was weaker after he drained this planet. But he became more powerful the moment Galactus started blasting him with the very same bse energy that he just fed on. Pretty simple actually.

Galactus doesn't blast using bse. He blasts using the Power Cosmic, the very same energy he gave to his heralds. That's my point. Galactus doesn't give his heralds an energy source separate from his own. He gives them a fraction of his own power, which is why he is able to drain it from them also. There should have been no reason whatsoever why Tyrant couldn't have drained SS, Morg, or Terrax of their energies also.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is its doubtful this clone was as powerful as the mistress death upgrade and no way as powerful as the end one. Both times he had huge major upgrades it was done with extreme power. Mistress death and the heart as he gave it up.

Not once did I say the clone was as powerful as Thanos was after the end, because the clone was created before Thanos even went through that. You say it's doubtful, and you very well may be right, but that model was powerful and convincing enough for even Death to use it against The Rot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is both. You are saying that isnt great prep and manipulation? The go hand in hand. He got someone else to completely take Odin out of the equation. Only a fool would do something he could otherwise have someone else do for him.

No, they don't go hand in hand. Fabian Cortez manipulated Magneto into thinking he was healing him when instead he was actually hurting him. That doesn't make him great at prep.

Thanos got someone else to do it for him because he wasn't in a position to do it himself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Thanos clone wanted asgard and in the process he took Mangog as an ally and completely got in Odin's face after he weakened him to the point of just sitting there and taking it. Poor Odin mocked by a clone.

He didn't weaken Odin at all. He had Tarakis incapacitate an already weakened Odin. Big difference.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Back to the clothes and orb, huh. You have yet to prove Thanos took more damage from Tyrant other than the extremely pointless clothes argument, and you have yet to prove how much energy was in the orb and how much it even helped Thanos in the fight.

No, I'm not asking you to do anything. I'm saying that the only reason why Tyrant was able to do what he did is because of a plot device, which was a power given to him specifically for this story. Because he had this ability, and only because of it was he able to do anything to Galactus. If he were to face anyone else around Galactus' level whom he couldn't do that to, he could get his ass stomped.

You don't know, which is why it was a plot device used specifically for this story.

Galactus doesn't blast using bse. He blasts using the Power Cosmic, the very same energy he gave to his heralds. That's my point. Galactus doesn't give his heralds an energy source separate from his own. He gives them a fraction of his own power, which is why he is able to drain it from them also. There should have been no reason whatsoever why Tyrant couldn't have drained SS, Morg, or Terrax of their energies also.

Again Tyrant has these powers. This writer never changed anything about Tyrant but instead made it make sense for Tyrant to be so hellbent on destroying Galactus. Accept his powerset please.

No its his powerset it was finally explained.

Ok but bse is what powers him up. Without bse energy Galactus will become waker and weaker and eventually starve.

Yes he gives them such a small fraction it matters not to him. What happens to the heralds if Galactus dies? What happens to their powers?

The reason he couldnt drain them is because they dont feed off bse energy that is Galactus.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Not once did I say the clone was as powerful as Thanos was after the end, because the clone was created before Thanos even went through that. You say it's doubtful, and you very well may be right, but that model was powerful and convincing enough for even Death to use it against The Rot.

No, they don't go hand in hand. Fabian Cortez manipulated Magneto into thinking he was healing him when instead he was actually hurting him. That doesn't make him great at prep.

Thanos got someone else to do it for him because he wasn't in a position to do it himself.

He didn't weaken Odin at all. He had Tarakis incapacitate an already weakened Odin. Big difference.

Huh Thanos clone was attemtping to mess with all of asgard. Taking out Odin is great if your in for a war with all of asgard is it not? I mean be serious here and give credit where its due.

Thanos got someone to do it because it would get done. As long as it works its brilliant.

Again brilliance to take advantage of a situation. You must adapt in comics just as you do in real life and the clone adapted easily and seized the day.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That was stated in the comic. Thanos created and him and was trying to defeat him at the time. He doesnt spread misinformation. Its a fact.

Drax just changed recently after his last resurrection. Thanos really hadnt come into contact wit this new Drax whose powers changed drastically after it. Again if he hadnt had his back turned trying to free Galactus he would still be alive imo.

Both can take the credit.

Yes he had to release Galactus to stop Annihilus' huge army. But Annihilus' whole plan centered around Galactus and to stop his plan all he had to do was release him.

Thanos knew Moondragon would and then he founf this out BECAUSE he didnt trust Annihilus and did this whole thing simply because he was bored and wanted to see how it would play out.

Thanos though found out himself through Moondragon. He took the initiative and said a page later he can basically fix it.

He was pissed at Annihilus for deceiving him and was going to kick his ass. But he never fully trusted him anyways.

I dont know what you mean by this. Nova defeated Thanos with help but Thanos had nothing to do with this. He was chilling with Death.

It's a fact as well that Hulk is said to be capable of rivaling the Celestials, HYPERBOLE. And again if it truly was the intentions of putting meaning behind those words Omega showing would have been far more impressive.

A unforsign calculation from Thanos which claims he plans for everything, yet as Tenebrous mentioned why back failed to take into account Drax which he knowningly taunted. Probably but again arrogance from Thanos side, no more different then the Arrogance from Galactus side when he released hunger.

So I can take the credit even though I did absolutely nothing... Should I give Silver Surfer the Credit for Thanos battle against Odin because he was there???

Yes Galactus was needed and as said all centered about Annihilus but why did Thanos not himself seek out and kill Annihilus should have been a simple task, yet that was a option that he didn't have, and when you are placed with a nothing to lose scenario (which Thanos hadn't (except his life) when he released Galactus), the options and the knowing of why Thanos released Galactus is quiet clear.

He didn't trust Annihilus correct, but it doesn't change anything about Thanos begin deceived by Annihilus.

He can fix it because he takes all scenarios into account, that was the only reason to why he could fixe it, but my point was that he was deceived by Annihilus and that Annihilus pretty much had Thanos in a cornor with two options, play along and destroy the Universe ore repel and release Galactus which would involve unforsign consequances for himself.

Obviously not, but he was still deceiving which was my point, all along Both Thanos and Galactus have showed that they can be deceived the only difference was the persons that deceived them.

Shall we give Thanos the credit for defeating Annihilus when it in reality was Nova that did all the work and was going to challenge annihilus regardless, the same scenario actually just like you claiming that the Honor for Tenebrous and Aegis defeat of Galactus should go to Thanos 😬

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have proven Thanos took less hits from Tyrant. I have also proven the orb was only used against Tyrant and not Odin. The clothes argument supports my case as Thanos' condition wasnt explained in either story.

You have yet to prove how much power was in the orb, so we don't know how much it even helped in the fight. Your clothes argument is weak, as I have proved that Thanos has been injured far more than in either of these fights, and his clothes remained intact.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Tyrant has these powers. This writer never changed anything about Tyrant but instead made it make sense for Tyrant to be so hellbent on destroying Galactus. Accept his powerset please.

No its his powerset it was finally explained.

No, his powerset was changed. He never displayed anything like that before this fight, including the two times he encountered Galactus.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok but bse is what powers him up. Without bse energy Galactus will become waker and weaker and eventually starve.

I understand that, but the energy he absorbs from planets isn't the same energy he releases. They are different.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes he gives them such a small fraction it matters not to him. What happens to the heralds if Galactus dies? What happens to their powers?

Don't know since Death stated that Galactus will eventually reform if he is ever killed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The reason he couldnt drain them is because they dont feed off bse energy that is Galactus.

But Tyrant didn't absorb the energy Galactus feeds on. He absorbed the energy Galactus released. Big difference.

Originally posted by Utrigita
It's a fact as well that Hulk is said to be capable of rivaling the Celestials, HYPERBOLE. And again if it truly was the intentions of putting meaning behind those words Omega showing would have been far more impressive.

A unforsign calculation from Thanos which claims he plans for everything, yet as Tenebrous mentioned why back failed to take into account Drax which he knowningly taunted. Probably but again arrogance from Thanos side, no more different then the Arrogance from Galactus side when he released hunger.

So I can take the credit even though I did absolutely nothing... Should I give Silver Surfer the Credit for Thanos battle against Odin because he was there???

Yes Galactus was needed and as said all centered about Annihilus but why did Thanos not himself seek out and kill Annihilus should have been a simple task, yet that was a option that he didn't have, and when you are placed with a nothing to lose scenario (which Thanos hadn't (except his life) when he released Galactus), the options and the knowing of why Thanos released Galactus is quiet clear.

He didn't trust Annihilus correct, but it doesn't change anything about Thanos begin deceived by Annihilus.

He can fix it because he takes all scenarios into account, that was the only reason to why he could fixe it, but my point was that he was deceived by Annihilus and that Annihilus pretty much had Thanos in a cornor with two options, play along and destroy the Universe ore repel and release Galactus which would involve unforsign consequances for himself.

Obviously not, but he was still deceiving which was my point, all along Both Thanos and Galactus have showed that they can be deceived the only difference was the persons that deceived them.

Shall we give Thanos the credit for defeating Annihilus when it in reality was Nova that did all the work and was going to challenge annihilus regardless, the same scenario actually just like you claiming that the Honor for Tenebrous and Aegis defeat of Galactus should go to Thanos 😬

Thanos was in the middle of doing something else. Something very important and like I said he had no clue as we know wit what we have read that he knew Drax was capable of this. He just recently changed.

Thanos was deceived but found it by his own means by using Moondragon because he didnt trust him.

Thanos spoke the truth and Galactus was an utter moron imo. Thanos finds out himself usually but Galactus refuses to listen and almost got the universe destroyed by releasing Hunger. Thanos cleaned it up though.

Thanos has incurred Galactus' wrath before and lived to tell the tale. Ig etc. He chose to release Galactus.

Anyone can be deceived but Thanos has always shown himself to be a great manipulator and to exhibit much more intelligence than Galactus has ever shown.

Thanos arranged Galactus' capture through T and A while he didnt arrange Annihilus' defeat through Nova. Pretty simple actually.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
You have yet to prove how much power was in the orb, so we don't know how much it even helped in the fight. Your clothes argument is weak, as I have proved that Thanos has been injured far more than in either of these fights, and his clothes remained intact.

No, his powerset was changed. He never displayed anything like that before this fight, including the two times he encountered Galactus.

I understand that, but the energy he absorbs from planets isn't the same energy he releases. They are different.

Don't know since Death stated that Galactus will eventually reform if he is ever killed.

But Tyrant didn't absorb the energy Galactus feeds on. He absorbed the energy Galactus released. Big difference.

In that story his condition was explained. I have already refuted this point many times.

Its the very energy that powers him. Again dont tell me how much you hate this story accept it as its canon.

Did he reform in the Abraxas storyline?

Same energy where Galactus derives his power from. He shoul dhave known better than to use it on Tyrant.