Punisher vs Joker

Started by xmarksthespot36 pages

I would assume he'd notice your heartbeat, blood pressure and respiration change when lying/trying to deceive him.

He'd presumably be able to notice the green glow emitted by the cereal. Or used his other visual abilities to detect it.

Oh and feel the kryptonite's effects upon proximity.

So Supes always uses his senses to the utmost?

Generally feeling like crap upon proximity to your Achille's heel doesn't require using one's senses to their utmost.

So you agree that it didn't make sense in SR when he landed on a K Isle & didn't realize it?

I agree that Superman Returns was a waste of celluloid. I don't know whether that's relevant to the thread though.

Originally posted by jgiant
Imagine that...really makes you think...would you humor me with a direct quote, its been so long.

Actually I didnt know wether Frank Castle could beat Apokolips or The DC uiniverse all I did is throww some stuff togther I was basically trying to bullshit.

Thats what people can't seem to get through their heads but just keep going on about it because they need somnething to b*tch about.

Even if you do know what you're talking about read a hundred issues and provide a hundred scans, people will say some shit like you're not listening, you're being illogical while using the same logic as you are. At least I never said that I could take a baseball bat to the nuts from Punisher....now thats deluded.

Like you're trying to bullshit now I presume.

Like how you take a baseless position, then find some random crap to try and justify it even though it doesn't really, then rinse and repeat for several pages, then try and backpeddle and tone down the initial position to ambiguities like "wasn't downgraded" "get's very far" "does well" "one of the better" "mid-level" when for pages you've made it apparent trying to make it a case for things like "was upgraded" "wins" wins easily" "best" "high-level."

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Like you're trying to bullshit now I presume.

Like how you take a baseless position, then find some random crap to try and justify it even though it doesn't really, then rinse and repeat for several pages, then try and backpeddle and tone down the initial position to ambiguities like "wasn't downgraded" "get's very far" "does well" "one of the better" "mid-level" when for pages you've made it apparent trying to make it a case for things like "was upgraded" "wins" wins easily" "best" "high-level."

🙄 I obvoulsy didnt know what the hell I was talking about of course it was a crap thread I hardly own any DC comics apart from Batman and im sure you,ve heard me mention that before. I even mentioned that in the thread but at least I know I can't take a baseball to the nuts in the real world.

Me not knowing what im talking about now is a different matter because ive read lots of Batman and Punsiher comics but of course you're still going to tell me I don't know what im talking about.

Clever. Have a cookie. I'll deliver it via an Oan construct through the interwebz.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
🙄 I obvoulsy didnt know what the hell I was talking about of course it was a crap thread I hardly own any DC comics apart from Batman and im sure you,ve heard me mention that before. I even mentioned that in the thread but at least I know I can't take a baseball to the nuts in the real world.

Me not knowing what im talking about now is a different matter because ive read lots of Batman and Punsiher comics but of course you're still going to tell me I don't know what im talking about.

I love how you never seem to remember things properly.

I also love how he admits to constantly making up bullshit, more than apparent many times, but then expects anyone and everyone to take him seriously.

In retrospect you say you were just bullshitting. No need to state it because at the time it was blatantly obvious to everyone you were bullshitting, yet it was also apparent you were trying to pass yourself as not. Some examples that come to mind are the Thing/Wolverine fight in Enemy of the State, or Batman's files and how they relate to JLA: Tower of Babel, or the nature of Green Lanterns, or the status of Thunderbolt... that's just a few off the top of my head.

Which begs the question of why you think people should take you seriously... ever...? I mean it's not like you've ever performed surgery on yourself.

If he did that might explain some things...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I also love how he admits to constantly making up bullshit, more than apparent many times, but then expects anyone and everyone to take him seriously.

Er no I don't.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

In retrospect you say you were just bullshitting. No need to state it because at the time it was blatantly obvious to everyone you were bullshitting, yet it was also apparent you were trying to pass yourself as not. Some examples that come to mind are the Thing/Wolverine fight in Enemy of the State, or Batman's files and how they relate to JLA: Tower of Babel, or the nature of Green Lanterns... that's just a few off the top of my head.

Well obvoulsy I was trying to make Punisher win, but the fact that I even knew myself that I had hardly read any GL material or any other DC material I knew it was a stab in the dark.

However though there some issues in that thread that made it clear that even if you have read the source material that people will still tell you, you don't know what you're talking about. Which has happened in this thread despite the fact that I have read alot of material involved in this discussion.

Hell im not the one who is trying to argue that Gotham in DC is actually part of New York.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

Which begs the question of why you think people should take you seriously... ever...? I mean it's not like you've ever performed surgery on yourself.

Thats up to you.

Things like posting a scan of Batman's files that says his contingency against Flash is an anti-vibratory artifact, then saying that what the scan really says is he'd build a speedforce powered time-machine make it very hard to take you seriously.
Saying that the scan you posted had nothing to do with Tower of Babel, when the premise of Tower of Babel was that Ra's obtained those contingencies and set them in motion, while acting like other people were the ones who hadn't read it, makes it very hard to take you seriously.
Often asking for negative proofs and misusing and misspelling at that fallacies makes it very hard to take you seriously.
Acting as if the Joker is just a visual-kei J-Rocker with too much time on his hands and your huge mancrushes on various characters makes it very hard to take you seriously.
That Sado agrees with you makes it very hard to take you seriously.
Not having performed surgery on yourself makes it very hard to take you seriously.

Batman originally was set in New York, apparently. And Gotham has always been an analog to New York. So it's not an entirely outlandish statement, nor is it more outlandish than some things you've said. So saying something like "I'm not the one trying to argue blah blah blah" is ineffectual in downplaying your own statements' outlandishness and makes if very hard to take you seriously.

But maybe others are more easily swayed.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Things like posting a scan of Batman's files that says his contingency against Flash is an anti-vibratory artifact, then saying that what the scan really says is he'd build a speedforce powered time-machine make it very hard to take you seriously.
Saying that the scan you posted had nothing to do with Tower of Babel, when the premise of Tower of Babel was that Ra's obtained those contingencies and set them in motion, while acting like other people were the ones who hadn't read it, makes it very hard to take you seriously.
Often asking for negative proofs and misusing and misspelling at that fallacies makes it very hard to take you seriously.
Acting as if the Joker is just a visual-kei J-Rocker with too much time on his hands and your huge mancrushes on various characters makes it very hard to take you seriously.
That Sado agrees with you makes it very hard to take you seriously.
Not having performed surgery on yourself makes it very hard to take you seriously.

Batman originally was set in New York, apparently. And Gotham has always been an analog to New York. So it's not an entirely outlandish statement, nor is it more outlandish than some things you've said. So saying something like "I'm not the one trying to argue blah blah blah" is ineffectual in downplaying your own statements' outlandishness and makes if very hard to take you seriously.

But maybe others are more easily swayed.

Some of that stuff is correct and, some of thats stuff is matter of opinion or taken out of context, im not going to argue with you. I could find lots of stuff where I do know what im talking about and where you and other posters don't. Its up to you if you want to pick as many negative points as possible.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Actually I didnt know wether Frank Castle could beat Apokolips or The DC uiniverse all I did is throww some stuff togther I was basically trying to bullshit.

Thats what people can't seem to get through their heads but just keep going on about it because they need somnething to b*tch about.

Even if you do know what you're talking about read a hundred issues and provide a hundred scans, people will say some shit like you're not listening, you're being illogical while using the same logic as you are. At least I never said that I could take a baseball bat to the nuts from Punisher....now thats deluded.


Seriously, you need to visit your psychiatrist.
It seems you suffer from autism or something.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
🙄 I obvoulsy didnt know what the hell I was talking about of course it was a crap thread I hardly own any DC comics apart from Batman and im sure you,ve heard me mention that before

I can't believe I was actually arguing with a retard

wallbash

I vote Frank, Franks Taller.

-i jest-

MA > goons
Bullets >> goons

as for the psycological element, Castle isnt exactly a Care bear. If he's smart - and i think he is - he'll realize he can't possibly save everyone the Joker goes after, and being the showman the Joker is, it's simply a matter of time before crosshairs meet. And since Frank will be fresh out of batarangs, he'll likely settle for a gun, and it will do the job.

humble opinion ofc.

Originally posted by Sado22
wallbash

*shrug*