Punisher vs Joker

Started by Superherovandal36 pages

Originally posted by Juk3n
I vote Frank, Franks Taller.

-i jest-

MA > goons
Bullets >> goons

as for the psycological element, Castle isnt exactly a Care bear. If he's smart - and i think he is - he'll realize he can't possibly save everyone the Joker goes after, and being the showman the Joker is, it's simply a matter of time before crosshairs meet. And since Frank will be fresh out of batarangs, he'll likely settle for a gun, and it will do the job.

humble opinion ofc.

As much as Castle cares about killing Joker he wouldn't possibly put it over saving thousands if not millions of civilians. He'd do everything he could to save them.

the joker's a maniac but frank is wicked! he has the all the weapon's and is more ruthless than batman, he won't think twice about killing the joker.

Originally posted by Badabing
😂

dur

Originally posted by brainchild81
😄 Say Supes likes to take Lois to a local diner. (Like the one movie Supes got his ass kicked in)I suggest that he tries the cereal. I say it's on me. I insist. He wouldn't fall for it?

even spock finds your superman hate illogical... 😛

just read the last two pages of this thread... lulz.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
As much as Castle cares about killing Joker he wouldn't possibly put it over saving thousands if not millions of civilians. He'd do everything he could to save them.

i see your point, but if it was a decision like, risk 1000 lives to get a killing chance at Joker - to SAVE 10,000 MORE lives, wouldnt Frank do the lesser of 2 evils. I mean i wouldnt expect him to be completley heartless, but if he KNEW it was a fools hope of saving them , but by there deaths, Joker would be flushed out..i think he'd still wait for the kill.

i don't know, this is a hard one, probably one of the most thought provoking threads ive seen on my short time on KMC.

I think people are dramatically underestimating what Joker can do.

Here's earth after Joker escaped from the Slab during Last Laugh.
http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jokerlastlaughbk03of06048an.jpg

The Spectre can't handle Joker's insanity, causing a personality split.
http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=35755_jokerspectre3a.jpg
http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36588_jokerspectre3b.jpg
http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36595_jokerspectre3d.jpg
http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36602_jokerspectre3e.jpghttp://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36602_jokerspectre3e.jpg
http://img136.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36607_jokerspectre3f.jpg
http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36612_jokerspectre3g.jpg

Joker decides to start messing with the weather.
http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jokerlastlaughbk04of06055md.jpg
http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jokerlastlaughbk04of06067mq.jpg

And what did he do to the weather? Just a little thing called 'Crazy Rain'. shocklaugh

http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jokerlastlaughbk04of06291yr.jpg
http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jokerlastlaughbk04of06306hu.jpg

How the hell can Frank counter an entire city of Jokers?

Incidently, Jokerization is permanent or fatal after a certain time. The anti-venom doesn't work after awhile.
http://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla059045jc.jpg

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I think people are dramatically underestimating what Joker can do.

Here's earth after Joker escaped from the Slab during Last Laugh.
http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jokerlastlaughbk03of06048an.jpg

The Spectre can't handle Joker's insanity, causing a personality split.
http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=35755_jokerspectre3a.jpg
http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36588_jokerspectre3b.jpg
http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36595_jokerspectre3d.jpg
http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36602_jokerspectre3e.jpghttp://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36602_jokerspectre3e.jpg
http://img136.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36607_jokerspectre3f.jpg
http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=36612_jokerspectre3g.jpg

Joker decides to start messing with the weather.
http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jokerlastlaughbk04of06055md.jpg
http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jokerlastlaughbk04of06067mq.jpg

And what did he do to the weather? Just a little thing called 'Crazy Rain'. shocklaugh

http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jokerlastlaughbk04of06291yr.jpg
http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jokerlastlaughbk04of06306hu.jpg

How the hell can Frank counter an entire city of Jokers?

Incidently, Jokerization is permanent or fatal after a certain time. The anti-venom doesn't work after awhile.
http://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla059045jc.jpg

😛

You know this thread has been really disappointing.

I mean seriously. The Joker side talks about all these plans and escapades of the joker and the punisher side offers..

"He snipes him."
"He uses a really big gun."

And thats pretty much IT.

Talk about shitty arguments.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You know this thread has been really disappointing.

I mean seriously. The Joker side talks about all these plans and escapades of the joker and the punisher side offers..

"He snipes him."
"He uses a really big gun."

And thats pretty much IT.

Talk about shitty arguments.

because if batman has a gun it would have been over sixty years ago. frank IS guns.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
because if batman has a gun it would have been over sixty years ago. frank IS guns.
And this one as well.. thank you for reminding me of the shitty arguments that I'd missed.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And this one as well.. thank you for reminding me of the shitty arguments that I'd missed.
you take it too seriously.

a sniper shot will end him, further and more extravagant tactic is unnecessary.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you take it too seriously.

a sniper shot will end him, further and more extravagant tactic is unnecessary.

Oh you were seriously using that argument.

Sorry... but this argument is:

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh you were seriously using that argument.

Sorry... but this argument is:

Why? Joker is just a human. Hell, I could maybe beat his ass myself.

-joker never goes outside.

-joker never looks like his usual self when committing acts of crime.

-joker is the antithesis of an attention whore, he hates getting infamy from his crimes and usually keeps a low profile that would make a CIA agent look like paris hilton.

-joker even when indoors is fully decked out in the most advanced body armour and helmets money can buy, ever vigilant of an ambush.

etcetera

yeah, joker can't be sniped.........

😉

Originally posted by psycho gundam
-joker never goes outside.

-joker never looks like his usual self when committing acts of crime.

-joker is the antithesis of an attention whore, he hates getting infamy from his crimes and usually keeps a low profile that would make a CIA agent look like paris hilton.

-joker even when indoors is fully decked out in the most advanced body armour and helmets money can buy, ever vigilant of an ambush.

etcetera

yeah, joker can't be sniped.........

😉

What about Frank just charge the building where Joker is with a lot of C4?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
What about Frank just charge the building where Joker is with a lot of C4?
how will frank know where he is, or where he will be, to be absolutely sure he would have to nuke the whole city. Its a very close match up, but frank does have home field advantage...so thats what makes me lean to my main man, but joker is not to be counted out, i might have to give the slight advantage to frank at the moment, but its not in stone.

Yeah, alot of that rides on PUNISHER FINDING A SINGLE MAN IN THE 12TH MOST POPULATED CITY IN THE WORLD!

Do I need to use the [size] tag? CAuse I'm not sure how many times I've said that.

"Oh he's found plenty of people."

People that already lived in the Marvel universe that alreay had a history and paper trail.

Joker's NOT from the Marvel Universe he DOESN'T have the information on him to enable him to be tracked down.

It's a city of 8.2 million people. and he's just going to luck out and find the joker or someone that's seen him?

Either way its a 1 in 8.2 million chance of that happening.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah, alot of that rides on PUNISHER FINDING A SINGLE MAN IN THE 12TH MOST POPULATED CITY IN THE WORLD!

Do I need to use the [size] tag? CAuse I'm not sure how many times I've said that.

"Oh he's found plenty of people."

People that already lived in the Marvel universe that alreay had a history and paper trail.

Joker's NOT from the Marvel Universe he DOESN'T have the information on him to enable him to be tracked down.

It's a city of 8.2 million people. and he's just going to luck out and find the joker or someone that's seen him?

Either way its a 1 in 8.2 million chance of that happening.

Yea both of these guys are masters of not getting found when they don't want to be. It will be very difficult for them to find each other, this fight can go on for months or even years thats how patient they are.

Franks gets a slight majority here. Joker is brilliantly warped. That's his greatest strength and weakness. I give Frank a slight majority because of the "good guy" factor, plus he's not too shabby in the brains, prep and resources department. That and homefield is enough. Just my opinion even though I have a Joker avi and sig.

Originally posted by Badabing
Franks gets a slight majority here. Joker is brilliantly warped. That's his greatest strength and weakness. I give Frank a slight majority because of the "good guy" factor, plus he's not too shabby in the brains, prep and resources department. That and homefield is enough. Just my opinion even though I have a Joker avi and sig.
Somebody copied and pasted. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
Somebody copied and pasted. 🙂
I changed it up a bit. I like the discussion. It's interesting. Oh, you've committed the Haggis fallacy again. 😛