Delph's League of Champions Season One Discussion Thread

Started by leonidas198 pages

what about other versions of characters? aoa characters and such? are they legal if they have enough appearances?

Originally posted by leonidas
what about other versions of characters? aoa characters and such? are they legal if they have enough appearances?

I've asked in regards of Ultimate, AoA and Mangaverse Marvel characters (Marvel Mangaverse=\=manga FYI), as well as All-Star DC ones, and never got positive answer.

Seriously, what's the limitation on alternate universe characters is (if there's one)? Allowing multiple versions of the same character in tourney can be interesting strategicallywise.
Also there's sometimes difference in power levels\tier placement between characters.
Emma Frost, who is high meta in 616, is a low street at AOA for example...

Sorry, I must have overlooked that question. I suppose if an alternate version of a character meets the appearance quota they'd be draft eligible. I see no reason why not.

Well, if flashback\background appearance count, then AOA Moira and AOA Emma meet the requirements I think🙂 Human High Counsil as a whole got enough appearances for that...I think.

lulz at Longshot. I'm not even sure how you'd debate with someone like that. I say allow it for the sheer hilarity if someone drafts him. And yes, that's my vote.

Originally posted by Scoobless
So you're definitely not entering then Digi?

An excellent question. Probably not, at this point, but I'll admit that I've felt some remorse that I've never been in a high meta tourney before. I enjoy this power level. But I probably won't have the time to dedicate to it in the coming months.

In the meantime, helping ill coordinate this is rewarding, and I'm of course thinking of draft combos. If I come up with something priceless, I may enter, but until then I'm happy to be a judge and interested party.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Just my point. Longshot's\Domino's style powers are totally unsuitable for tourneys\RPGs. I remember than as GM on one comic-related RPG I had to judge a fight with Domino in it. Lots of BS and headache.

Rose Tattoo's style powers are another talk, but OH kills are banned anyways. BTW, LOL at having Rose Tattoo as high street at tier table. Girl can kill you with anything from kiss to butter knife, and she's Saint of Killers-lite with boobs.

On precogs- clairvoyance\danger sence is fine, outright precognition- nope.

Rose's power set is very vague. Despite being the spirit of death, she hasn't shown anything that any street-leveler couldn't accomplish, and appears to be just as vulnerable to harm as most human beings. Remember that she died in the conflagration with Bendix....half of the Authority could've made it through that explosion. SoK she ain't.

Longshot and Domino is one hell of fun, though. I remember the only touney luck powers went around was under-Thanos team tourney (with ASS serum and everything)- but then they were ignored in debate as something utterly pointless.

When we say "no mind control" do we mean only telepathic powers, or anything that takes control of another character in any way eg - mentally/technologically/physically?

EDIT:

And does that include taking control of an opponents tech/weapons/armour?

Technopathy is dicey. I say allow it, but make damn sure that no one is getting Henshaw-lite.

As much as it would be hilarious to allow Longshot and let you all allow go insane from debating against him...........I think I speak for the other judges when I say we'd rather avoid the headache of judging that match. 😄

Pre-cog should be outright banned. Danger sense ala Spidey, ok. Vague clairvoyance, case by case. Outright pre-cog ability to sense the future more than 5 or so seconds? **** no. 👇

Originally posted by Scoobless
When we say "no mind control" do we mean only telepathic powers, or anything that takes control of another character in any way eg - mentally/technologically/physically?

EDIT:

And does that include taking control of an opponents tech/weapons/armour?

Telepathic powers, I'd believe.

So you think we should be allowed powers that can control a persons body if not their mind?

If we ban body controlling powers (which we probably should) then controlling a persons tech isn't too far behind, if that tech happens to be a part of them or surrounding them ala Iron man.

I doubt there are many high end technopaths below herald level. But I'm ok with banning it if it becomes a problem.

Body-control....like what? Aside from TP, do you mean like TK, magic, mutant powers? Give me an example.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I doubt there are many high end technopaths below herald level. But I'm ok with banning it if it becomes a problem.

Body-control....like what? Aside from TP, do you mean like TK, magic, mutant powers? Give me an example.

Purple Man, and people with similar abilities, control the persons actions but don't actually control their mind.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Purple Man, and people with similar abilities, control the persons actions but don't actually control their mind.

I think that should be allowed, seeing as there are many ways of countering it.

Pheremones and things of the like are easily combatted at high meta level.

I'm not sure the same could be said for technopathy however, so there could be a problem with that.

You think Purple Man should be allowed? The guy has controlled entire teams with no problem, he even controlled Nate Grey for a while.

There are ways of countering telepathic control as well, but that's already completely banned.

i think prep should almost be scrapped altogether, to be honest...

just let people amalgam before the fight, stick the teams on the battlefield, and let them have at it...

but thats just me...

Originally posted by Scoobless
You think Purple Man should be allowed? The guy has controlled entire teams with no problem, he even controlled Nate Grey for a while.

There are ways of countering telepathic control as well, but that's already completely banned.

And he's been beaten before, by Moon Knight wearing ear plugs?

I'm kind of flip-flopping around on the topic to be honest, I can see why such powers could (and probably will) be banned.

IMO it just seems silly to ban things that are easily dealt with at the level.

Originally posted by Raoul
i think prep should almost be scrapped altogether, to be honest...

just let people amalgam before the fight, stick the teams on the battlefield, and let them have at it...

but thats just me...

I would actually agree with you on that. Make it more about the teams.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I would actually agree with you on that. Make it more about the teams.

oh, so i'm not the only one... 😛

to add a bit of strategy, i'd have swaps between teams infinite, even between matches (if they arent already), for example...

say i have colossus, and i see that smurph has polaris and i'm due up against him in the next match... i'd be thinking how screwed i am... but then i see that charlotte, say, has emma, and is actually in the market for a class 100 bruiser, so we swap for the matches...

not to step on toes or anything, it's just an idea...

Technopathy shouldn't be an issue. There's counters to it. Making a rule against it would limit a lot of characters unecessarily.

As for mind control, I'm in agreement that there needs to be limits. But telepathic attacks shouldn't be negated entirely. Mind control, out. Offensive telepathy, fine.

Originally posted by Raoul
oh, so i'm not the only one... 😛

to add a bit of strategy, i'd have swaps between teams infinite, even between matches (if they arent already), for example...

say i have colossus, and i see that smurph has polaris and i'm due up against him in the next match... i'd be thinking how screwed i am... but then i see that charlotte, say, has emma, and is actually in the market for a class 100 bruiser, so we swap for the matches...

not to step on toes or anything, it's just an idea...

Isn't there a rule in place that allows that already? something about trading? or is that just at certain times?