No, I asked you a specific question, you didn't answer it, as fact. What you did is say a lot of nonsense while avoiding the question. As typical when you don't want to answer a question that stumps your current (and subject to change) scenario of winning. Nothing new from you.
FFS, now Swagger is "the best" too?
You're a dishonest clown who will simply continue to alter your argument and "move the goal post" whenever someone counters whichever bit of nonsense you're currently on about.
Originally posted by RobtardIt is stated in Shooter that he is the best, so he is indeed the best. It is actually said in the movie "He is the best." The best, no one better.
No, I asked you a specific question, you didn't answer it, as fact. What you did is say a lot of nonsense while avoiding the question. As typical when you don't want to answer a question that stumps your current (and subject to change) scenario of winning. Nothing new from you.FFS, now Swagger is "the best" too?
You're a dishonest clown who will simply continue to alter your argument and "move the goal post" whenever someone counters whichever bit of nonsense you're currently on about.
Also we get to see him take on small armies and shoot down helicopters, something 47 isn't shown doing.
Itso Facto, Swagger is better.
All you gotta do is ask again, in plain english. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It is stated in Shooter that he is the best, so he is indeed the best. It is actually said in the movie "He is the best." The best, no one better.Also we get to see him take on small armies and shoot down helicopters, something 47 isn't shown doing.
Itso Facto, Swagger is better.
All you gotta do is ask again, in plain english. Go ahead, I'll wait.
The best at what exactly, do they mention anything? Because he could be the best dish washer or tile layer. In Hitman, they say exactly what 47 is the best at.
Your fanboyism is showing, 70 men isn't an army, not even a small one. In fact, 70 isn't even a company.
There you go with your tactics, after the question has been posted, re-posted and posted again, you go with the "okay, ask again" tactic. It was in plain English all three times, you trolling child.
Originally posted by Robtard
The best at what exactly, do they mention anything? Because he could be the best dish washer or tile layer. In Hitman, they say exactly what 47 is the best at.Your fanboyism is showing, 70 men isn't an army, not even a small one. In fact, 70 isn't even a company.
There you go with your tactics, after the question has been posted, re-posted and posted again, you go with the "okay, ask again" tactic. It was in plain English all three times, you trolling child.
Swagger's actions speak for themselves. He is the best at what he does, killing. The CIA seek him out because he is the best. That's it.
Swagger IS an "an expert in every aspect of combat." Any fool can see this. Knife, Sniping, Assault rifle, Hand to hand combat, Explosives, Counter Intel, Stealth and Evasion, if it is combat, Swagger has mastered it.
AND we are shown, to a certain degree, him doing this. ALL of it.
Swagger, capable of taking on 100 men at a time, surely can handle one man, even one as well trained as 47. Sure, 47 makes a two mile head shot, ONCE. Swagger makes mile head long head shots in his sleep.
Swagger is, whether you want to admit it, just as good, in fact BETTER than 47 is at killing. I mean besides making ONE two mile shot and taking on 15 Russian SWAT members, what has he really done onscreen that compares to what Swagger has done onscreen?
I am not trolling and I am not baiting, I answered every question I saw you ask. All you have to do is ask again, just copy and paste.
I think that anyone who has the higher ground has a great advantage. I can't see anyone on the level ground have a clean shot in the city of Philadelphia.
In my opinion I would think 47 would have the advantage for his skill alone. He has been proven to snipe at 4 kilometers. That hasn't been matched in any movie.
If 47 gets high ground, 10/10 win.
Think I got whiplash from this thread, haha.
In the middle of Philly, doesn't matter who sets up sniping-shop first or anything, 47 takes this. There's so such thing as a hiding place where you can enter from either side, nor the top. I think mayb a cave can do that, but even then, no way Swagger's sniping 47 from inside a cave in the middle of Philly.
One would also think that a sniping point where you can only enter from the front would trap Swagger in there, and since 47 can snipe from a farther distance, yeah, no use arguing Swagger can win this. Pack it up and seal it, 47 takes this.
Come on guys, RJ thought placing Swagger in a park would be advantageous for him... and then he acts like he knows anything about sniping aside from mentioning ".50 cal" (WOW!) here and there.
Swagger, capable of taking on 100 men at a timeYou sure he wasn't safely tucked away from 1km with a sniper rifle?
So originally you said Swagger would beat 47 in a sniper battle. Now that we've shown how full of crap you are, you're going to say he is going to win with "small arms". Swagger doesn't have alot of feats at all with small arms.
^ Are you pretending that actually answered the question?
Providing more "feats" didn't answer the question.
He could've still been far away and picked off enemies with a sniper rifle, which I would assume is likely.
Also, you just pointed out the fact that Swagger ("Swagger and his unit"😉 was not alone when he engaged the "100 men".
1 The Millitary flies a black ops unit to take out three battallions and some enemy infrastructure
2 They do it. And sustain heavy casualties.
Swagger survives
3 The explosions Gunfire and detonation of infrastructure and silent radio channels get the alarms going.
4 A response unit in proportion to the devastation hits the ground and takes to the air to capture the insurgents as they make their withdrawal.
5 There is only one insurgent and two copters and 100 angry armed highly skilled combatants
6 Swagger retreating to the pick up point wipes out The force hunting Him.
7 To Clarify Swagger is definitely not snugging it out in a bunker with a couple of cases of munitions and a flask of joe. To replenish ammo as he retreats he has to constantly ambush his hunters to score guns and ammo. The sniper rifle would not be compatible with bullets for sub machine guns. If he were to continue using the special issue rifle he would have to modify the ammo which in a combat situation you can pull of a few times but not 20 times.
8. Codename 47 does not have the mentall agility to locate, outmanouvre and kill a Swagger with Prep.
Originally posted by PlaciditySo originally you said Swagger would beat 47 in a sniper battle. Now that we've shown how full of crap you are, you're going to say he is going to win with "small arms". Swagger doesn't have alot of feats at all with small arms.
"Moving the goal post", he's done this repeatedly, there's no point debating with someone so dishonest.
Now that he's (since he gets to decide, obviously) changed the scenario to "small arms" from a sniper battle, you still can't win. If you prove that 47 would still beat him in a pistol match, he'll magically change the scenario to something else and like the rest, this new scenario is the only way the fight could go done and of course Swagger would win.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Swagger's actions speak for themselves. He is the best at what he does, killing. The CIA seek him out because he is the best. That's it.Swagger IS an "an expert in every aspect of combat." Any fool can see this. Knife, Sniping, Assault rifle, Hand to hand combat, Explosives, Counter Intel, Stealth and Evasion, if it is combat, Swagger has mastered it.
AND we are shown, to a certain degree, him doing this. ALL of it.
Swagger, capable of taking on 100 men at a time, surely can handle one man, even one as well trained as 47. Sure, 47 makes a two mile head shot, ONCE. Swagger makes mile head long head shots in his sleep.
Swagger is, whether you want to admit it, just as good, in fact BETTER than 47 is at killing. I mean besides making ONE two mile shot and taking on 15 Russian SWAT members, what has he really done onscreen that compares to what Swagger has done onscreen?
I am not trolling and I am not baiting, I answered every question I saw you ask. All you have to do is ask again, just copy and paste.
LoL, how you arbitrarily label Swagger as "an expert in every aspect of combat" is ridiculous. I can see your mind working, "if 47 is an expert, then Swagger must be, since he's so cool and I love the books!"
47 is shown making one 2.5 mile head-shot, correct. Yet Swagger is shown making what one mile long head-shot, yet "Swagger makes mile head long head shots in his sleep"? That my boy, is classic "fanboyism".
As noted, Swagger wasn't alone in that fight, he had his unit with him. Of course you'll disregard this and Swagger pulled a Rambo in your eyes.
Yes, you are. It's a tactic you often use to avoid questions that destroy your argument. You claim you have answered the question over and over, yet you haven't. Then when the person has had enough, you start with the "what question, I answered it, post it again" nonsense. It's okay, I understand. I posted it THREE times, surely you can go back and read if you're that sincere.
Originally posted by RobtardAs noted, Swagger wasn't alone in that fight, he had his unit with him.
There are two seperate feats.
one in which a five man black ops unit wipes out 3 battallions. and infrastructure.
Out of this fight Only 1 Man survives.
That one man is alone for the second fight. Alone, with depleted ammunition, and wounded against a 100plus response force with radio and air support.
Originally posted by shiv
There are two seperate feats.one in which a five man black ops unit wipes out 3 battallions. and infrastructure.
Out of this fight Only 1 Man survives.
That one man is alone for the second fight. Alone, with depleted ammunition, and wounded against a 100plus response force with radio and air support.
Where are you getting this precise info from? I don't remember anyone mentioning this to such detail in the movie.