Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, I was saying Swagger showed mad driving skills when he escaped all those cop and FBI cruisers.
And by your use of logic, Swagger was able to drive like that when escaping multiple people, not just one, as it would be the case between 47 and him. Ergo, Swagger can't use "mad driving skills" when escaping 47.
Originally posted by RobtardMuch more difficult, IMO, to escape like thirty or forty cops and FBI cruisers AND an aerial unit than it is to escape one car.
And by your use of logic, Swagger was able to drive like that when escaping multiple people, not just one, as it would be the case between 47 and him. Ergo, Swagger can't use "mad driving skills" when escaping 47.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Much more difficult, IMO, to escape like thirty or forty cops and FBI cruisers AND an aerial unit than it is to escape one car.
Playing by your rules, "if it's not in the movie, it doesn't count". Don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot, do you?
47 is the worlds best assassin, yet you argue he'd be a stumped moron if Swagger went into the woods with some face-paint. When logic would dictate that he would have training to kill in any scenario/environment to be the top assassin.
Same logic you're using with Swagger and the car. Funny how deductive logic can be applied to Swagger, but not 47.
Originally posted by RobtardDont know where you are going with this.
Playing by your rules, "if it's not in the movie, it doesn't count". Don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot, do you?
47 is the worlds best assassin, yet you argue he'd be a stumped moron if Swagger went into the woods with some face-paint. When logic would dictate that he would have training to kill in any scenario/environment to be the top assassin.Swagger would be totally in his element in the woods. He can pretty much render himself invisible to the naked eye.
Same logic you're using with Swagger and the car. Funny how deductive logic can be applied to Swagger, but not 47.Thats not what I am doing and you know it. I am merely going on what we have SEEN them do.
Originally posted by RobtardI'd wager he'd be quite frantic if he had 47 on his tail haermm
Okay, ergo, Swagger doesn't have "mad driving skills" unless he's frantic and escaping from muiltiple FBI agents.Though I agree that is stupid reasoning, you're a stickler when gimping the person you want to lose; it's only fair you use that same reasoning on Swagger here.
You could argue that 47 is more deadly than Swagger with twin .45's, because he is shown using them, and Swagger isn't. See how that works?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I'd wager he'd be quite frantic if he had 47 on his tail haermmYou could argue that 47 is more deadly than Swagger with twin .45's, because he is shown using them, and Swagger isn't. See how that works?
Just as I'd wager 47 would be able to handle himself in the woods, since he the top assassin and it stands to reason that not every job he gets involves him killing in a hotel. But according to you, you can't apply that kind of logic, unless it's the guy you want to win.
I could, because 47 is shown being a bad-ass with them and his background pretty much states he's the top expert at killing.
Anyhow, we're deciding who'd win in a death match between the top assassin and a marine-sniper. Agent 47 has Swagger beat in every possible sense, even sniping, as shown with his 4+ meter kill.
Originally posted by RobtardYou are assuming an awful lot, while I am going on what is shown in the movies. Theres no room for assumption here.
Just as I'd wager 47 would be able to handle himself in the woods, since he the top assassin and it stands to reason that not every job he gets involves him killing in a hotel. But according to you, you can't apply that kind of logic, unless it's the guy you want to win.I could, because 47 is shown being a bad-ass with them and his background pretty much states he's the top expert at killing.
Anyhow, we're deciding who'd win in a death match between the top assassin and a marine-sniper. Agent 47 has Swagger beat in every possible sense, even sniping, as shown with his 4+ meter kill.
Bringing in what we "think" they can do opens up room for far too many discrepancies.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Bringing in what we "think" they can do opens up room for far too many discrepancies.
Ah, but it's what you excel on. Look at your past failed threads. I don't know how much more conditioning you may need, but in this fight, there's only an urban environment. In this fight, 3 days to prepare is enough for 47 to find a million ways to kill this marine hash-up. He loses. I highly doubt there'll be a car chase, 47 flips his car, and dies. Not to mention that Swagger will turn his car around, drive back and pass 47, while 47 just sits there at the lack of not being able to do a u-turn.
Originally posted by ScytheI already said it is unlikely to get as far as a car chase, didnt I? And I didnt make this thread, brainiac. Pay attention. please.
Ah, but it's what you excel on. Look at your past failed threads. I don't know how much more conditioning you may need, but in this fight, there's only an urban environment. In this fight, 3 days to prepare is enough for 47 to find a million ways to kill this marine hash-up. He loses. I highly doubt there'll be a car chase, 47 flips his car, and dies. Not to mention that Swagger will turn his car around, drive back and pass 47, while 47 just sits there at the lack of not being able to do a u-turn.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You are assuming an awful lot, while I am going on what is shown in the movies. Theres no room for assumption here.Bringing in what we "think" they can do opens up room for far too many discrepancies.
Oh the hypocrisy... you make a living at assuming what the character you want to see win could do.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I already said it is unlikely to get as far as a car chase, didnt I? And I didnt make this thread, brainiac. Pay attention. please.
I didn't say you started this thread, I said reference your Vs. threads, please try to comprehend sentences and not assume. Greatly appreciated. However, 47 is at an advantage, do you not see this?
Originally posted by ScytheBait bait bait.
I didn't say you started this thread, I said reference your Vs. threads, please try to comprehend sentences and not assume. Greatly appreciated. However, 47 is at an advantage, do you not see this?
I said this quite some time ago:
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Thats what I just said I said. Whats your point?Swagger has the advantage in the non urban environmet, he wins.
47 has the advantage in the city, he wins.
Where's the confusion?
Then the thread starter specified:
Originally posted by Utrigita
47 doesn't know where in Philadelphia Swagger is located that was the reason I gave both three days to locate there opponents, within Philadelphia, if Swagger wasn't in philadelphia there was no reason sending 47 there, to locate him, again my bad should have specified.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Actually I make a living in the hotel business. As far as this forum goes, I go by what I SEE the movie character do, I dont assume anymore.
In a previous Vs. thread, you said you made a living thinking outside the box.
Then why would you assume they'd fight in a non-urban area when the fight is in th 5th largest U.S. city? Granted, they could fight in a park or something, but that's a silly assumption.