Ryu vs Cloud Strife

Originally posted by Vampire Savior

No

Man, if you keep sayin stuff like this I'm gonna put you on my ignore list. You know damn well Ryu doesn't fight to kill.

...You know damn well Cloud can't do that.

They didn't even show his body close enough to tell and for that mater when Cloud gave seph the Omni Slash, he didn't have any "cutting damage" either.

😂And I don't understand this response at all.

of course it's yes.

while he can incinerate a cyborg without his strongest move in alpha timeline and now he can't even KO a normal human with his strongest moves. SFA the movie is full of bullshit. stop using SFA anime as a reference. you know a well landed kick can't incinerate people

yeah right...

dude, if bahamut was slashed by cloud, the cloud will be gone through bahamut body and bahamut will be cut, not fall. you want a slash? then you should see cloud's last attack. cloud slashed bahamut and used climhazzard to bahamut and then bahamut dies.

you said bahamut = baloon without any weight. here's an extreme question for you. can a 5 years old children push bahamut all the way to the thin air?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
of course it's yes.

while he can incinerate a cyborg without his strongest move in alpha timeline and now he can't even KO a normal human with his strongest moves. SFA the movie is full of bullshit. stop using SFA anime as a reference. you know a well landed kick can't incinerate people

Hugo is a normal human, WTF?

Hugo is at least 9 feet tall and 1,000 pounds of raw muscle. How in the FVCK is he a normal human?

I'm pretty sure he's 7 feet tall, but this whole Shin Shoryuken thing keeps coming back everytime I kill it. How many times I'm I gonna state that it's UNCONFIRMED and even if it wasn't. How can you compare a Hadouken [Energy projection] to a Shoryuken [ A Physical Blow] in terms of effects? Granted there are some similarities, but they work on two completely different fronts.

at least compared to that cyborg, he's weaker. now don't tell me cody, haggar or even kyle could solo that cyborg alone while ryu, ken and chun-li can't even hurt him unless ryu become satsui no hadou state. hadouken's effect just like a well landed kick. now how many times should I ask you how could a well landed kick could incinerate a human, cyborg, or anything else?

Ryu doesn't fight to kill you ignorant dumbass.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
at least compared to that cyborg, he's weaker. now don't tell me cody, haggar or even kyle could solo that cyborg alone while ryu, ken and chun-li can't even hurt him unless ryu become satsui no hadou state.

You are aware that that was massive PIS considering neither Ken, Ryu or Chun-li used any of their strongest technques?

Chun li didn't use her Kikoushou, Ken didn't use any of his trademark Super Shoryukens, No shinkuu Hadouken from regular ryu, No Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpuu kyaku from Ryu, No Shin Shoryuken, No Houyoku-Sen. . .Hell, ken did not even use a Fire Shoryuken FFS.

Nevermind that the final fight team have not fought Hugo in a decade. Is it impossible for him to be stronger after such a long time?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma

hadouken's effect just like a well landed kick. now how many times should I ask you how could a well landed kick could incinerate a human, cyborg, or anything else?

WTF, A normal Hadouken feels like a kick, but it's effect can be changed depending on how the Ki is manipulated. Sort of like how Ryu can shoot heat, electric hadoukens or Gouki can cut with his. Nevermind that Satsu No Ryu aims to Kill his oppenents directly. Did that just slip your mind?

Jenova has no feats? She is the essence to the whole storyline, the reason Sephiroth had his powers, just some cells of Jenova turned regular humans into superhumans like Cloud, and Zack, she transformed basically the entire Cetra race into monsters, her abilities are insane..

Originally posted by Terryc250
Jenova has no feats? She is the essence to the whole storyline, the reason Sephiroth had his powers, just some cells of Jenova turned regular humans into superhumans like Cloud, and Zack, she transformed basically the entire Cetra race into monsters, her abilities are insane..

And she was incomplete when Cloud and friends fought.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Yet never is seen using them. 😐

And she was incomplete when Cloud and friends fought.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Its stated in the game, it was part of the story, you never see it because it happens like a thousand years before the game starts, her abilities can be seen through Sephiroth.

Originally posted by Classic NES
You are aware that that was massive PIS considering neither Ken, Ryu or Chun-li used any of their strongest technques?

Chun li didn't use her Kikoushou, Ken didn't use any of his trademark Super Shoryukens, No shinkuu Hadouken from regular ryu, No Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpuu kyaku from Ryu, No Shin Shoryuken, No Houyoku-Sen. . .Hell, ken did not even use a Fire Shoryuken FFS.

Nevermind that the final fight team have not fought Hugo in a decade. Is it impossible for him to be stronger after such a long time?

WTF, A normal Hadouken feels like a kick, but it's effect can be changed depending on how the Ki is manipulated. Sort of like how Ryu can shoot heat, electric hadoukens or Gouki can cut with his. Nevermind that Satsu No Ryu aims to Kill his oppenents directly. Did that just slip your mind?

yeah right... they didn't used their strongest move while ken used everything he had to execute his final shoryuken while he engulfed with a blue energy and it end up only dislocated cyborg's jaw. after that ryu became satsui no hadou state. did they still have any other weapon in such a state? I guess not. if they have, I believe they'll use it at such an emergency state like that.

I believe he's stronger. but after a decade hugo trashed somewhere in FF timeline, he defeated by kyle.

I'm talking about regular hadouken. I'm not talking about shakunetsu or denjin hadouken. if your point about manipulated ki is shakunetsu and denjin, that's not explaining why a regular or maybe shinkuu could incinerate people.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Considering they have no real feats, yeah.

2. ...Yeah he is. 😬

Their feats are FAR greater than Clouds. In all ways.

And the Buster Sword isn't a ton. I would say AT BEST it is 400 pounds.

nope,

and nope. cloud along with his team also beat ultima and omega, and remember, that the chaos limit break wasnt as powerful as the omnisash limit break. also, cloud is strongest in his world. sephiroth was initially, but he lost.

i wud say its at WORST, 1600 pounds. the sword{not the one cloud had in advent children} is thicker than his upper arm, almost wider tahn his chest, and as tall as him. that much solid steal/metal is easily a ton.

no not at all easily, first your assuming the metal, can you show me official sources stating what its actually made from? for all you know it could be some light metal that weighs less or it could be a dense metal that weighs more but you cant assume unless you show me official source saying what metal his sword is.

when did cloud defeat omega? care to explain when did it happen?

Ryu doesn't fight to kill you ignorant dumbass.

vampire savior state that ryu's hadouken could destroy a skyscraper, and even incinerate people. I'm only asking how could a well landed kick incinerate someone and you thought I'm thinking ryu fight to kill.

Originally posted by Burning thought
no not at all easily, first your assuming the metal, can you show me official sources stating what its actually made from? for all you know it could be some light metal that weighs less or it could be a dense metal that weighs more but you cant assume unless you show me official source saying what metal his sword is.

two things, one, the buster sword was black, which means iron. two, there was also a sowrd called rusty sword, which he wielded in the game which was just as big, and definately made of iron{hence the RUST}

he fought and defeated both ultima weapon and omega weapon in the game, if i remember correctly, albeit they were optional bosses, but they were there.

next time you should add "weapon" on it. -_-;

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
yeah right... they didn't used their strongest move while ken used everything he had to execute his final shoryuken while he engulfed with a blue energy and it end up only dislocated cyborg's jaw.

Blue energy that was called a regular Shoryuken with no flames at all, Chun-li performed none of her trademark supers. . .none And, Ryu who could have done a simple Shinkuu Hadouken which worked really well against Sadler. For some magical reason could not use it against the Cyborg. . .PIS.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma

after that ryu became satsui no hadou state. did they still have any other weapon in such a state? I guess not. if they have, I believe they'll use it at such an emergency state like that.

Ry turning Sastu No Hadou was nothing more than plot. Because Canonically speaking he only transform into him when he wants to win so bad. It makes no sense that he had to turn to him when he did not even explore alll his powers.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma

I believe he's stronger. but after a decade hugo trashed somewhere in FF timeline, he defeated by kyle.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma

I'm talking about regular hadouken. I'm not talking about shakunetsu or denjin hadouken. if your point about manipulated ki is shakunetsu and denjin, that's not explaining why a regular or maybe shinkuu could incinerate people.

It becomes a different Hadouken depending on what energy he puts on it. . . Why is that so hard to get, he can alter hadouken at anytime.