ROTS Obi Wan & Anakin vs ROTS Mace

If Mace loses than they take on Yoda.

The superconducting loop wouldn't apply, but Mace is still darn good. If Kenobi goes into overload on defense, that leaves Anakin to fight a tired out mace. I'm cautiously going to give this to the team.

Originally posted by Jbill311
The superconducting loop wouldn't apply, but Mace is still darn good. If Kenobi goes into overload on defense, that leaves Anakin to fight a tired out mace. I'm cautiously going to give this to the team.

The team barely beat Dooku and I think Mace is above Dooku. If Dooku could come close to doing so and his defeat to Anakin is already looked at with much skepticism. I pretty sure Mace could pull off a win.

I do not see Dooku putting Sidious on the floor.

Originally posted by Kotor3
The team barely beat Dooku and I think Mace is above Dooku. If Dooku could come close to doing so and his defeat to Anakin is already looked at with much skepticism. I pretty sure Mace could pull off a win.

I do not see Dooku putting Sidious on the floor.

Originally posted by Tangible God
It's not always about "he beat him, so they can't beat him." Dooku and Mace are quite close, and Mace's Vapaad wouldn't do anything for him here.

Who would you give the win to?

Anakin and Obi Wan would crush Mace, both individually have a chance at beating Mace (Anakin much more-so). Dooku was forced to use the force/droids/distractions to stop the duo from massacring him together. Mace is nowhere near as skilled as Dooku with the force so that stops him from seperating the team. His Vaapad is nearly useless against Kenobi's defense, combined with Anakin's onslaught dynamic duo will make short work of Windu.

mace takes this, obi wan cant block shatterpoint

anakin is too stupid mace takes him apart,

scenario:mace force crushes obi wan giving him a heart attack then dismantles anakin in about 5 minutes

outcome:mace wins>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>team

Cute, and you always rag on me for poor contribution to your threads.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Cute, and you always rag on me for poor contribution to your threads.

no time for insults. if you disagree i hope you are smart enough to articulate why

Originally posted by Dr. Styles
Anakin and Obi Wan would crush Mace, both individually have a chance at beating Mace (Anakin much more-so). Dooku was forced to use the force/droids/distractions to stop the duo from massacring him together. Mace is nowhere near as skilled as Dooku with the force so that stops him from seperating the team. His Vaapad is nearly useless against Kenobi's defense, combined with Anakin's onslaught dynamic duo will make short work of Windu.

I do not know that many of Mace's feats but your statement is true about Dooku using many distractions. Did not think of that before. But I do not think that Obi Wan and Anakin will take out Mace quickly.

Also how skilled is Mace with the force? I always looked at him as powerful and very skilled. Is Dooku that much better?

Originally posted by Man of Christ
mace takes this, obi wan cant block shatterpoint

First off there is a difference from finding one's shatterpoint and being able to exploit it especially with more than one oppenent.

anakin is too stupid mace takes him apart,

scenario:mace force crushes obi wan giving him a heart attack then dismantles anakin in about 5 minutes

Scenario: Obiwan and Anakin double team Mace who uses his saber much more then he uses the force so they take him in lightsaber combat. Mace's force crush can be be countered and his biggest advantage (vapaad) is negated. The team is close to Mace's saber skills to begin with and Mace isn't noted to be a force powerhouse. Therefore he loses.

Mace dies painfully. Seriously- defeating either one of them in individual combat would require difficulty, when you factor in both of them... it's rather difficult to imagine a situation where Mace would win.

That being said, though, he may be capable of killing one of them before he goes down.

Probably Obi-Wan. His Soresu won't hold forever.

So far is seems that Mace has no chance. Don't forget about Yoda. If they beat Mace they go against Yoda.

Yoda's a different story. I'm no expert on him, but I'd give it to him for some reason.

Mace can beat either one of them individually with fair ease, but he loses to them two on one. They then proceed to get crushed by Yoda.

Didn't Yoda fight Mace and someone else at the same time and manage to beat both of them?

And what has Dooku done that puts him above Mace in the force, btw.

Originally posted by Kotor3
The team barely beat Dooku

Excuse me? 'Barely beat Dooku'? Anakin alone wiped the floor with him. Did you miss the part where he gets destroyed?

And, nobody ever said Dooku was a match for his master.

Originally posted by fatgogeta
Mace can beat either one of them individually with fair ease, but he loses to them two on one.

Not necessarily. In ROTS, Anakin and Obi-Wan were having a much harder time with him while working together; it was only after Dooku disposed of Kenobi when Anakin was able to defeat him. They do not necessarily fight better when they're together.

They weren't exactly having hard time, they were crushing Dooku together, hence the need for the distractions/the force. Dooku couldn't even pierce Kenobi's defense.

Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
Excuse me? 'Barely beat Dooku'? Anakin alone wiped the floor with him. Did you miss the part where he gets destroyed?

And, nobody ever said Dooku was a match for his master.

Not necessarily. In ROTS, Anakin and Obi-Wan were having a much harder time with him while working together; it was only after Dooku disposed of Kenobi when Anakin was able to defeat him. They do not necessarily fight better when they're together.

The "struggling" was explained in the book as a distraction, with the two Jedi using styles that they were unused to. Obi Wan does not start with soreseu, at least in the book. As they are shown using flips (ataru) in the movie, the Book isn't contradicting anything, so it is cannon in this case. It was only after Dooku disposed of Kenobi that Anakin needed to use his true form. (ushering in the age of pwn-zor 1!!!!11!!1!!!!0)