Which Actor/Actress/Movie do you think didn't deserve an Oscar? Why?

I'll list one for each right now:
Actor: Jamie Foxx in 'Ray'...How much did he really have to do? I don't think he did it that well either.

Actress: Susan Saradon in 'Dead Man Walking'...I don't think she had to play as complex a role as Elizabeth Shue the same year in 'Leaving Las Vegas'.

Movie: 'Shakespeare in Love' when 'Saving Private Ryan' was a nominee the same year. A LOT more roles in SPR were addressed, and I think their complexity was handled a lot better.

Thoughts?

Movie: Ordinary people beating ranging bull and elephant man was just ridiculous. Same with dancing with wolves beating goodfellas.

actor: roberto benigni, tommy lee jones.

Actresses: helen hunt.

Annie Hall beating Star Wars for picture of the year in 1977.

Oh, and Denzel Washington for Training Day. Denzel deserved his Oscar, but not for that film. It was a cheap gangster part. He should've won for Hurricane or Malcom X.

Originally posted by bakerboy
...Same with dancing with wolves beating goodfellas...[b]

[b]...actor: roberto benigni...

sithsaber408 Annie Hall beating Star Wars for picture of the year in 1977.

sithsaber408Denzel Washington for Training Day...He should've won for Hurricane or Malcom X...

Movie: Chicago beating The Two Towers. That was plain silly!

Actor: Martin Landau as Bela Lugosi in Ed Wood beating Samuel Jackson in Pulp Fiction. Travesty!!

Both of those, Chicago and Landau, will not be remembered longer than the losers in their respective categories.

Yes, dancing with wolves did beat goodfellas in 1990. A total joke and total crazy.

Benigni did beat nick nolte for aflicction, ed norton for american history x, tom hanks for saving private ryan and ian mackelle for gods and monsters. All of them better than him.

Agree that washington winning for trainning day and losing for malcom x was a joke. But i think that landau deserved his oscar. He was better that the great work of sam jackson in pulp fiction. His bela lugosi was great.

Originally posted by bakerboy

Benigni did beat nick nolte for aflicction, ed norton for american history x, tom hanks for saving private ryan and ian mackelle for gods and monsters. All of them better than him.

i couldn't disagree more...Benigni was far better than any of those roles...especially Norton...who, while he was good in that film, has proven since that he is incapable of living up to his promise...

Totally desagree with that. Benigni was only a clown. His movie was sad at times, but far worse than those performances. Mackellen and Nolte were perfection in their roles, Norton and Hanks the same.

Another one: marion cotillard for la vie in rose.Not because she was bad, but because Julie Christie was better in away from her.

Originally posted by bakerboy
Totally desagree with that. Benigni was only a clown. His movie was sad at times, but far worse than those performances. Mackellen and Nolte were perfection in their roles, Norton and Hanks the same.

Another one: marion cotillard for la vie in rose.Not because she was bad, but because Julie Christie was better in away from her.

Hanks was a wooden box in saving private Ryan....the whole film lives of the reputation of the 1st 15 minutes...the rest, for the most part is boring and badly acted drivel

Nick Nolte would be the nearest...

fact is it's alot more difficult for a foreign lanuage film to get even a nomination for best oscar outwith the foreign language film award....so for an actor in a foreign language film to win best actor...it's almost unheard of...i believe it's only happened 1 other time in oscars history

Benigni's performace was exemplary...

Originally posted by bakerboy
...Benigni was only a clown...Mackellen and Nolte were perfection in their roles, Norton and Hanks the same.

jaden101 You're right about Norton quite being able to prove himself since then [Primal Fear though?], but the question is THAT particular year, not his career after. I know you've made that year's point clear. I just wanted to put in my 2 cents about his career after.

[SpaceMonkey] I think the whole 'Chicago' thing was because it was the first musical [done well] in like a 1000 years [in American cinema]. But I do agree with you 100%

Actor: Adrian Brody in "The Pianist". I thought Daniel Day Lewis played a much greater character in Bill the Butcher.

Originally posted by agphoenix
I do agree. It's funny because I was actually going to mention Ed Norton first, McKellen, Nolte, Hanks.

[B]jaden101 You're right about Norton quite being able to prove himself since then [Primal Fear though?], but the question is THAT particular year, not his career after. I know you've made that year's point clear. I just wanted to put in my 2 cents about his career after.

[SpaceMonkey] I think the whole 'Chicago' thing was because it was the first musical [done well] in like a 1000 years [in American cinema]. But I do agree with you 100% [/B]

he still didn't deserve it (Norton)

to be fair though...if the Oscars were about awarding the best films and actors from around the world...American films would rarely win...fact is they're a way for the US film industry to spend sickening amounts of cash and give themselves big pats on the back

Originally posted by jaden101
...Benigni's performace was exemplary...

I actually agree. But I ALMOST can't separate his exemplary performance to Norton's CHILLING initial depiction and then his flawless transformation into who he became towards the end.

I'd have to lean towards Norton eventhough I agree with your comment about Benigni.

And btw I do understand your point about foreign movies etc. But the way I see it, that's what the 'Best Foreign' film is about. Bollywood from the east makes some very very good movies. But they've only EVER been considered in that category. So...a little discrepancy on their part there I think.

Originally posted by Röland
[b]Actor: Adrian Brody in "The Pianist". I thought Daniel Day Lewis played a much greater character in Bill the Butcher. [/B]

jaden101 You made the foreign movies remark while I was typing it.... 😛

The Oscars are overrated in my book.

With that thought in mind....Titanic getting all the Oscars was BS.

Even that annoying song won? Give me a break!

Anything that went to The Departed was a joke. Does anyone here actually watch the Oscars whole...

Good point... what do the Oscars really mean? It's a popularity contest. Obviously the best performances and best movies don't always win.

Whenever Hollywood is entering a phase of Foreign Films, foreign films get the awards. When it's the Indy film phase, indy films get the awards.

Scorcese had never received an Oscar, so they gave him one. There are so many admitted "sentimental" votes, it's ridiculous.

There's the Oscar sweethearts like Zellweger who will continue to be nominated, if not win, without really deserving it.

In 10 years Begnini won't even be remembered whereas Norton's role in American History X is widely considered a classic.

Titanic winning anything other than effects Oscars is a joke.

Brody is good, but come on!! Bill the Freakin' Butcher!!!

Sorry, I have a beef with people getting undeserved props and those that deserve them not getting them. It's a pet peeve.

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey

In 10 years Begnini won't even be remembered whereas Norton's role in american History X is widely considered a classic.

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only by the mindless drones that only watch hollywood drivel...

Life is Beautiful clearly has calibre beyond anything american history x could even dream of having

Grand Prize of the jury at Cannes for example

57 wins and 23 nominations...compared to american history x's 2 wins and 9 nominations

i'm not saying i didn't like it...and i'm not saying Norton was bad in it...but it's not in the same league as Life is Beautiful

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Sorry, I have a beef with people getting undeserved props and those that deserve them not getting them. It's a pet peeve.

Couldn't agree more.

And the gentleman who mentioned the Titanic.....let's never do that again...please?

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Originally posted by jaden101
only by the mindless drones that only watch hollywood drivel...

For whatever reason, it will not be remembered as much. I am not saying it sucked as a motion picture, far from it... but unfortunately, 8/10 people, drones or not, will remember OR prefer American History X.