Which Actor/Actress/Movie do you think didn't deserve an Oscar? Why?

Originally posted by jaden101
8 out of 10 people will probably remember transformers as well...so that's not a measure of how good a film is or how good the acting is.

if you were to look back on american history x again and look past the skinhead...Norton's performance is actually pretty much the same as alot of his other performances...notable 25th hour and fightclub...i think he's had the benefit of working with good directors and good scripts more than him being a good actor

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I feel the opposite. I really don't think that any Pirates Of The Caribbean movie, role or anything deserved even a nomination.

I don't think the movie should've anything either. I think just the 'Soundtrack' Oscar and Depp's was good.

He did manage to play a REALLY difficult role; an eccentric, drunk, borderline homo erotically flamboyant, clumsy, comedic and wily pirate. Not the most common type of role to pull off so well. That's what I thought at least. I agree with you about the other nominations/wins though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
How is his performance in American History X anything like those in Fight Club or 25th Hour?

Yeah, opinion shared about 'Fight Club', that's for sure.

Originally posted by Bardock42
How is his performance in American History X anything like those in Fight Club or 25th Hour?

his mannerisms are identical...just because he has a skinhead and a swastika tattoo doesn't mean it's any different...

Originally posted by agphoenix
[BHow would you justify that? And by that, I just mean taking his biography and performances into account, why would he not be an Oscar-worthy actor?[/B]

JD has an impressive resume; he's obviously quite talented; even if most of the roles he takes on are of peculiar character. I say he's the best nontraditional actor there is. Just not Oscar Caliber. That's beside the Oscars' uninterest in those types of roles.

See, I've always seen the best actor Oscar award as a prize someone wins due to how profoundly emotional that actor can portray the character he's playing. And Depp's quirkiness and aloofness makes it hard for me to look past those traits and onto what he may be capable of as an actor.

So not to take anything away from him. Depp's good, he's just not epic. He also has this pop actor element to him. I mean that's what he was after all, initially.

Profoundly emotional in relatable sort of way and not in an extremely and unorthodox fictional way, meaning.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
...That's beside the Oscars' uninterest in those types of roles...

...I've always seen the best actor Oscar award as a prize someone wins due to how profoundly emotional that actor can portray the character he's playing...

...And Depp's quirkiness and aloofness makes it hard for me to look past those traits and onto what he may be capable of as an actor...

Also, this doesn't count YET, but he's going to be in a movie named 'Shantaram', about the underground gang culture in India. And I guess he's going to be playing roles with one of the best Indian actors or something. I've read the book.[incredible] If they stay true to it, and he plays the part that I think he will, then I almost guarantee you an incredibly emotional and probably Oscar worthy performance. That's just very pale conjecture though.

...Depp's good, he's just not epic...

Couple of things:

1. Who did Cuba Gooding Jr. beat out for supporting actor that year?
2. If Jamie Foxx won an Oscar for Ray, he should have won several Emmys also. He played the SAME Ray character(as a joke) on In Living Color almost weekly!

Yea, "Blow" was what i kept thinking about. That and "Donnie Brasco". Those roles were much more serious, but they weren't epic. They didn't sweep audiences. He did good as those characters but he still reminded me that he was indeed Johnny Deep. Now Daniel Day, he completely gets ensconced into a role to the point where you forget he's Daniel Day. Case in point, "Bill the Butcher" (which i think is one of the top 5 best villains in film history, to me) or his last role as that capitalist, for example.

But like you said, "as of yet". I'll say that he does have potential and "can" be epic. So far, he hasn't been, to me. He's good.

We'll see what he'll offer with this new role you're talking about.

I've never rated Depp's acting at all. The only movie that he's impressed me in is Donnie Brasco.

Originally posted by agphoenix
The only one I'd question a little bit would be Swank, but that's an opinion's opinion, as I mentioned before.

What are your thought about DiCaprio in 'The Aviator'? [which will bring up my issue with Foxx in 'Ray'.]

I thought he was fantastic in The Aviator. IMO, he deserved the Oscar more than Jamie Foxx did. However, my personal favorite out of the nominations was actually Don Cheadle for Hotel Rwanda. Simply amazing.

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Couple of things:

1. Who did Cuba Gooding Jr. beat out for supporting actor that year?

The ones I remember are James Woods for Ghosts of Mississippi and Edward Norton in Primal Fear.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
The ones I remember are James Woods for Ghosts of Mississippi and Edward Norton in Primal Fear.

Awww, that should have Norton's award! 😠

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
...Now Daniel Day, he completely gets ensconced into a role to the point where you forget he's Daniel Day. Case in point, "Bill the Butcher" (which i think is one of the top 5 best villains in film history, to me)...

Originally posted by celestialdemon
...I thought he was fantastic in The Aviator. IMO, he deserved the Oscar more than Jamie Foxx did. However, my personal favorite out of the nominations was actually Don Cheadle for Hotel Rwanda. Simply amazing...

Also, I think Norton should have won for 'Primal Fear'.

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Awww, that should have Norton's award! 😠

Originally posted by agphoenix

Also, I think Norton should have won for 'Primal Fear'.

I was rooting for Norton to win, but I wasn't too disappointed that Cuba won. He was very good in Jerry Maguire and showed genuine excitement and happiness about winning, something very few people do nowadays.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I was rooting for Norton to win, but I wasn't too disappointed that Cuba won. He was very good in Jerry Maguire and showed genuine excitement and happiness about winning, something very few people do nowadays.

Yeah, he's probably one of the most under-rated actors today too. Unfortunately he has the one thing that's mauled the Oscars in history and that's his ethnicity. There aren't nearly as many African American lead roles as others. In fact, if I remember correctly, when Denzel won the Oscar for [can't remember], I believe he was only the second African American actor to win in Oscar history, after Sidney Pottier[sp]. And that was after a 40 year gap or so. Same stands true for Pan's Labyrinth and the crew involved. Actors etc. of Spanish descent are even less likely to come across a leading role [remember I'm talking Oscars, America]. I remember hearing all the hoop-la on the TV when they were broadcasting the Oscars that year; how it was an amazing year for Hispanics in history.

P.S. I use all the racial terms loosely and don't wish to offend anyone. I got sick of the fear of getting killed if I said the wrong thing when I was in the U.S! Here it's simple. You call a Northerner a Sicilian and you get mowed down by Tommy guns. Matter resolved!

Personally, I would have loved it if Sam Jackson had gotten the BSA Oscar for Pulp Fiction, rather than Martin Landau for Ed Wood.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The Oscars are overrated in my book.

With that thought in mind....Titanic getting all the Oscars was BS.

Even that annoying song won? Give me a break!

Just a small point, but Elliot Smiths "Miss Misery" from Good Will Hunting was nominated alongside Celine Dion " My Heart Will Go On" and Smiths song I believe should have won the oscar, another travesty.

Originally posted by papabeard
Just a small point, but Elliot Smiths "Miss Misery" from Good Will Hunting was nominated alongside Celine Dion " My Heart Will Go On" and Smiths song I believe should have won the oscar, another travesty.

hysterical

Originally posted by papabeard
Just a small point, but Elliot Smiths "Miss Misery" from Good Will Hunting was nominated alongside Celine Dion " My Heart Will Go On" and Smiths song I believe should have won the oscar, another travesty.