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SpaceMonkey Project Mayhem

Originally posted by gryphon28
Jamie fox did sang in the movie he is very talented and if you ever heard Ray Charlie's sang you can hear the slight deferents in their voices

By that rationale, Joaquin Phoenix should have won the Oscar for playing Johnny Cash in Walk the Line. A far better movie and portrayal. BTW, Phoenix DID sing every song as Cash, Foxx did not.

Quiero Mota Member Señor

Originally posted by agphoenix
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'The Godfather'? HOW the HECK is that movie overrated? fear

Here's how:

"Overrated" doesn't mean bad. It means that something is given credit it doesn't deserve. I think The Godfather is a good movie, but the fact that it consistently makes top five lists is due to a bandwagon mentality.

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
By that rationale, Joaquin Phoenix should have won the Oscar for playing Johnny Cash in Walk the Line. A far better movie and portrayal. BTW, Phoenix DID sing every song as Cash, Foxx did not.

I personally think Jaoquin should've.

celestialdemon Down from the Upside

Quick rundown of who I think should have won so far this decade:

2000

Picture: Traffic instead of Gladiator
Actor: Tom Hanks or Javier Bardem instead of Russell Crowe
S. Actress: Kate Hudson instead of Marcia Gay Harden

2001

Picture: Lord of the Rings: FOTR instead of A Beautiful Mind
Actor: Tom Wilkinson instead of Denzel Washington
Actress: Sissy Spacek instead of Halle Berry
S. Actor: Ian McKellen instead of Jim Broadbent (but I'm not disappointed about it)
S. Actress: Helen Mirren instead of Jennifer Connelly

2002

Picture: Lord of the Rings: TT instead of Chicago
Actor: Maybe Daniel Day-Lewis instead of Adrian Brody, but they were both deserving.
Actress: Julianne Moore instead of Nicole Kidman

2003

Actor: Johnny Depp instead of Sean Penn

2004

Picture: The Aviator instead of Million Dollar Baby
Actor: Leonardo DiCaprio or Don Cheadle instead of Jamie Foxx
Actress: Kate Winslet instead of Hilary Swank
S. Actor: Jamie Foxx gave the best performance out of the nominees, but since his performance was actually a lead instead of supporting, I'll go with Clive Owen instead of Morgan Freeman.
S. Actress: Natalie Portman instead of Cate Blanchett

2005

Picture: Good Night, and Good Luck instead of Crash

2006

S. Actor: Eddie Murphy instead of Alan Arkin, although my favorite performance was from Mark Wahlberg

2007

Actress: Ellen Page instead of Marion Cotillard

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Originally posted by Quiero Mota
"Overrated" doesn't mean bad. It means that something is given credit it doesn't deserve. I think The Godfather is a good movie, but the fact that it consistently makes top five lists is due to a bandwagon mentality

Nah, The Godfather is a masterpiece... you just say that due to a nonconformist mentality.

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SnakeEyes Connoisseur

Originally posted by celestialdemon

2001
Picture: Lord of the Rings: FOTR instead of A Beautiful Mind
Actor: Tom Wilkinson instead of Denzel Washington
Actress: Sissy Spacek instead of Halle Berry

Definitely agree with this section of your post.

agphoenix Above this is my name.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Quick rundown of who I think should have won so far this decade:
2000
Picture: Traffic instead of Gladiator
Actor: Tom Hanks or Javier Bardem instead of Russell Crowe
S. Actress: Kate Hudson instead of Marcia Gay Harden

Agree on all.

2001
Picture: Lord of the Rings: FOTR instead of A Beautiful Mind
Actor: Tom Wilkinson instead of Denzel Washington
Actress: Sissy Spacek instead of Halle Berry
S. Actor: Ian McKellen instead of Jim Broadbent (but I'm not disappointed about it)
S. Actress: Helen Mirren instead of Jennifer Connelly

I thought Beautiful Mind was phenomenal, in everyway. Would have to disagree imo.
Actor: can't remember the movies
Actress: If that was the 'Monster's Ball' crap year, then hell yeah Sissy
S.Actress: can't remember which movie Mirren was in.

2002
Picture: Lord of the Rings: TT instead of Chicago
Actor: Maybe Daniel Day-Lewis instead of Adrian Brody, but they were both deserving.
Actress: Julianne Moore instead of Nicole Kidman

Picture: agree VERY strongly
Actor: TOUGH one
Actress: thought that was kinda tough too

2003
Actor: Johnny Depp instead of Sean Penn

Agree.

2004
Picture: The Aviator instead of Million Dollar Baby
Actor: Leonardo DiCaprio or Don Cheadle instead of Jamie Foxx
Actress: Kate Winslet instead of Hilary Swank
S. Actor: Jamie Foxx gave the best performance out of the nominees, but since his performance was actually a lead instead of supporting, I'll go with Clive Owen instead of Morgan Freeman.
S. Actress: Natalie Portman instead of Cate Blanchett

Actor: Hell YEAH
Actress: would have to disagree imo...for reasons mentioned before
S.Actor: Oh so many comments but...no worries 🙂
S.Actress: Agreed. Oscar's seem to constantly have a boner for Blanchett. She's good, but c'mon...

2005
Picture: Good Night, and Good Luck instead of Crash

God that's a toughie for me...

2006
S. Actor: Eddie Murphy instead of Alan Arkin, although my favorite performance was from Mark Wahlberg

Yeah..Mark

2007
Actress: Ellen Page instead of Marion Cotillard

That wasn't for 'Juno' was it? If so, then f yeah.

Quiero Mota...man, I don't think just saying '...something is given something it doesn't deserve...' about 'The Godfather' is much reasoning. Let's really talk about this, if you wish! 🙂

bakerboy Senior Member

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Quick rundown of who I think should have won so far this decade:
2000
Picture: Traffic instead of Gladiator
Actor: Tom Hanks or Javier Bardem instead of Russell Crowe
S. Actress: Kate Hudson instead of Marcia Gay Harden
Agree.
2001
Picture: Lord of the Rings: FOTR instead of A Beautiful Mind
Actor: Tom Wilkinson instead of Denzel Washington
Actress: Sissy Spacek instead of Halle Berry
S. Actor: Ian McKellen instead of Jim Broadbent (but I'm not disappointed about it)
S. Actress: Helen Mirren instead of Jennifer Connelly
Agree, but Maggie Smith could have won too in the same deserving that Mirren, both were fantastic in godsford park.
2002
Picture: Lord of the Rings: TT instead of Chicago
Actor: Maybe Daniel Day-Lewis instead of Adrian Brody, but they were both deserving.
Actress: Julianne Moore instead of Nicole Kidman
Agree but i think that chicago deserved it and kidman too.
2003
Actor: Johnny Depp instead of Sean Penn
Desagree, penn was better.
2004
Picture: The Aviator instead of Million Dollar Baby
Actor: Leonardo DiCaprio or Don Cheadle instead of Jamie Foxx
Actress: Kate Winslet instead of Hilary Swank
S. Actor: Jamie Foxx gave the best performance out of the nominees, but since his performance was actually a lead instead of supporting, I'll go with Clive Owen instead of Morgan Freeman.
S. Actress: Natalie Portman instead of Cate Blanchett
Desagree, morgan was deserving, cate was deserving and hillary was deserving.
2005
Picture: Good Night, and Good Luck instead of Crash
agree.
2006
S. Actor: Eddie Murphy instead of Alan Arkin, although my favorite performance was from Mark Wahlberg
Desagree, arkin was slightily better than murphy.
2007
Actress: Ellen Page instead of Marion Cotillard

Totally desagree in the last one. Julie Christie deserved more than both cotillard and page.

By the way, the godfather is not overrated, is pure and simple a masterpiece.

celestialdemon Down from the Upside

Originally posted by agphoenix
Agree on all.
I thought Beautiful Mind was phenomenal, in everyway. Would have to disagree imo.
Actor: can't remember the movies
Actress: If that was the 'Monster's Ball' crap year, then hell yeah Sissy
S.Actress: can't remember which movie Mirren was in.

Tom Wilkinson was in In the Bedroom. Denzel Washington was in Training Day.

Halle Berry was in Monster's Ball. Sissy Spacek was in In the Bedroom.

Helen Mirren was in Gosford Park.

Originally posted by agphoenix
That wasn't for 'Juno' was it? If so, then f yeah.

Yep. That was Juno.

bakerboy Senior Member

I found Juno pretty overrated and Ellen Page's performance the same. Marion Cotillard was great but sometimes she overacted pretty bad, and she didnt her own singing. But the most complex, intelligent, subtle and moving performance was made by Julie Christie in away from her, she was the best in the bunch.

Yeah, mirren was nominated for godsford park, she and smith deserved it more than conelly. Same with sisi spaceck over halle berry.

Morning_Glory Sleeping In My Soul

I always thought Ellen Burstyn should have gotten the oscar for Requiem for a Dream - but Julia Roberts was given the award that yr for Erin B.

she just wanted to be on television.

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moviebuff1084 Senior Member

Originally posted by Quiero Mota

"Overrated" doesn't mean bad. It means that something is given credit it doesn't deserve. I think The Godfather is a good movie, but the fact that it consistently makes top five lists is due to a bandwagon mentality.

Godfather was a classic as its not in my top 5 list i don't think its overrated.

Originally posted by bakerboy
I found Juno pretty overrated and Ellen Page's performance the same. Marion Cotillard was great but sometimes she overacted pretty bad, and she didnt her own singing.

I fully agree.

chillmeistergen Restricted

I thought Juno was brilliant.

moviebuff1084 Senior Member

Juno was really good don't get me wrong i just did not think it was Oscar worthy.

chillmeistergen Restricted

I think it deserved its Oscar for best screenplay.

moviebuff1084 Senior Member

Well yeah maybe i can't remember what it was up against. But it was up for best picture and that i did not think it deserved.

chillmeistergen Restricted

No Country For Old Men won that, which was well deserved. I think Juno deserved the nomination, though.

gryphon28 Senior Member

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
By that rationale, Joaquin Phoenix should have won the Oscar for playing Johnny Cash in Walk the Line. A far better movie and portrayal. BTW, Phoenix DID sing every song as Cash, Foxx did not.

Use your ears fox did sang in the movie and Walk the line ain't that great

chillmeistergen Restricted

Neither of them are that great, but Walk The Line is definitely better.

SnakeEyes Connoisseur

Originally posted by agphoenix
I thought Beautiful Mind was phenomenal, in everyway. Would have to disagree imo.

In the Bedroom and Fellowship of the Ring are far superior. But to each his own.

And for the record, I thought Juno sucked. Not worthy of any nominations.

chillmeistergen Restricted

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
In the Bedroom and Fellowship of the Ring are far superior. But to each his own.
And for the record, I thought Juno sucked. Not worthy of any nominations.

Oooo, that's some big words, right there. I thought it was excellent, particularly the way it was written. I also think that Ellen Page is a fantastic, versatile actress and was brilliant in Juno.

We seem to share film tastes a lot, up until this bombshell. But anyway, I understand how it's not a film for everyone, but I thought it was great.