Actor: Roberto Benigni practically stole Ian McKellen's Oscar for Gods and Monsters.
Actress: Hilary Swank definitely didn't deserve to win for Million Dollar Baby. It should have gone to Kate Winslet for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
Movie: Annie Hall beating Star Wars for Best Picture was wrong on so many levels.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
...Actress: Hilary Swank definitely didn't deserve to win for Million Dollar Baby. It should have gone to Kate Winslet for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind...
I'd have to disagree with that one, imo of course. Now I'm not comparing MOVIES, because I think Eternal Sunshine was an excellent movie. But as far as acting is concerned, I don't think it would have taken Winslett much to really portray her charcter; a perky and eccentric person, something she seems like she is in real life anyway. Let me re-phrase that; something that she seems to come across in interviews. Except she swears like a sailor!
I think it might be more difficult to portray a person from a really poor background, while having a zest and ambition in life that surpasses all the shortcomings. And then Swank had to portray the same type of 'I won't give up' attitude
Spoiler:I personally thought that was brilliant.
when she was paralyzed after the accident, without moving much other than her mouth and her eyes.
Originally posted by SpaceMonkey8 out of 10 people will probably remember transformers as well...so that's not a measure of how good a film is or how good the acting is.
For whatever reason, it will not be remembered as much. I am not saying it sucked as a motion picture, far from it... but unfortunately, 8/10 people, drones or not, will remember OR prefer American History X.
if you were to look back on american history x again and look past the skinhead...Norton's performance is actually pretty much the same as alot of his other performances...notable 25th hour and fightclub...i think he's had the benefit of working with good directors and good scripts more than him being a good actor
Originally posted by jaden101
8 out of 10 people will probably remember transformers as well...so that's not a measure of how good a film is or how good the acting is.
if you were to look back on american history x again and look past the skinhead...Norton's performance is actually pretty much the same as alot of his other performances...notable 25th hour and fightclub...
...i think he's had the benefit of working with good directors and good scripts...
Originally posted by agphoenix
very true'fightclub'? Where he's the meager alter-ego [for the most part of the movie] vs. 'American History X', in which imo of course, he was very much a convincing and brutal character. And although I know you mention 'notable' before your two examples, let's not forget 'Primal Fear'.
Not too shabby a deal if it's getting him his performances' results.
it's not though...certainly not to the degree that he deserves the level of praise this thread is getting him...
but still...different strokes for different folks i suppose
Originally posted by jaden101
it's not though...certainly not to the degree that he deserves the level of praise this thread is getting him...
...different strokes for different folks i suppose
PEOPLE PEOPLE:
'Citizen Kane' : Oscar for Best Movie back in 1941 I believe.
Also on almost every movie aficionado's website as one of the top 3 movies of ALL TIME.
I don't care who should have won. Has anyone actually tried watching it? And made it all the way through without praying to slip into a coma?
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Actor: Roberto Benigni practically stole Ian McKellen's Oscar for Gods and Monsters.Actress: Hilary Swank definitely didn't deserve to win for Million Dollar Baby. It should have gone to Kate Winslet for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
Movie: Annie Hall beating Star Wars for Best Picture was wrong on so many levels.
Hm. Never really thought of this. Although, I did think the Johnny Depp/George Cloony best actor nods last year was foul. How do you mention George Cloony and Daniel Day in the same sentence film-wise. And Depp's good but not Oscar caliber.
The Annie Hall/Star Wars thing, at times, gets to me too.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
...How do you mention George Cloony and Daniel Day in the same sentence film-wise...
...And Depp's good but not Oscar caliber...
MildPossession
I'm glad it's not in your overall favourites 🙂 but just out of interest are you just stating the fact that it's technical film-making is one of the best, or are you justifying the win due to it?
Originally posted by agphoenix
I'd have to disagree with that one, imo of course. Now I'm not comparing MOVIES, because I think Eternal Sunshine was an excellent movie. But as far as acting is concerned, I don't think it would have taken Winslett much to really portray her charcter; a perky and eccentric person, something she seems like she is in real life anyway. Let me re-phrase that; something that she seems to come across in interviews. Except she swears like a sailor!I think it might be more difficult to portray a person from a really poor background, while having a zest and ambition in life that surpasses all the shortcomings. And then Swank had to portray the same type of 'I won't give up' attitude
Spoiler:I personally thought that was brilliant.
when she was paralyzed after the accident, without moving much other than her mouth and her eyes.
Different strokes, I guess. Personally, I'm tired of the poor or handicap roles getting far more credit than they deserve (see Sean Penn for I Am Sam). I thought her performance was good but not great. Certainly not as good as she was in Boys Don't Cry.
Out of the nominees, I felt as though both Winslet and maybe Catalina Sandino Moreno gave much stronger performances. Winslet's character had to take on a myriad of different emotions and personalities for her character, and she did them all seemlessly and believably. Moreno gave a real sense of desperation to the performance that was a lot better than I'd seen in much more seasoned actors.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Different strokes, I guess. Personally, I'm tired of the poor or handicap roles getting far more credit than they deserve (see Sean Penn for I Am Sam). I thought her performance was good but not great. Certainly not as good as she was in Boys Don't Cry.
just out of curiousity...do you feel that way about Tom Hanks in Forrest Gump...and if you've seen it Mathieu Amalric as Jean-Dominique Bauby in Diving bell and the butterfly?
Originally posted by celestialdemon
...Personally, I'm tired of the poor or handicap roles getting far more credit than they deserve (see Sean Penn for I Am Sam). I thought her performance was good but not great. Certainly not as good as she was in Boys Don't Cry...
...Out of the nominees, I felt as though both Winslet and maybe Catalina Sandino Moreno gave much stronger performances...
I'm glad it's not in your overall favourites but just out of interest are you just stating the fact that it's technical film-making is one of the best, or are you justifying the win due to it?
I respect it because it was one film of influence for future film making in editing/shots and so on. There were films that did certain things beforehand I believe, but Kane really brought it into light.
Originally posted by MildPossession
I respect it because it was one film of influence for future film making in editing/shots and so on. There were films that did certain things beforehand I believe, but Kane really brought it into light.
But does that alone make it Oscar-worthy as the movie of the year, let alone one of the top three movies of all time?
Eg. 'Saving Private Ryan' set an imposing milestone in Audio Engineering. But I don't think that alone should justify it winning the Oscar for Best Movie.
I wonder if they actually HAD a Best Editing category back in the 40's. If not, that'd certainly weaken my point of view huh? 🙂