Originally posted by Enyalus
Duuuuuuuude! Spite. For real.DN Luke takes this every which way possible. Even in the saber battle it isn't particularly close.
1. Sabers - Luke, 7/10.
2. Force - Luke, 10/10.
3. All Out - Luke, 9/10.
I have heard people say that Anakin could take ROTS Sidious in a saber battle or anyone in the PT era.
I do not know how much more powerful DN Luke is than ROTS Sidious.
Originally posted by Kotor3
I have heard people say that Anakin could take ROTS Sidious in a saber battle or anyone in the PT era.I do not know how much more powerful DN Luke is than ROTS Sidious.
I said he could take ROTS Sidious in a saber battle. But NJO Luke was moving so fast it looked as though he was wielding 20 lightsabers at once. And he's gotten even more powerful by DN. Anakin doesn't have a chance.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I said he could take ROTS Sidious in a saber battle. But NJO Luke was moving so fast it looked as though he was wielding 20 lightsabers at once. And he's gotten even more powerful by DN. Anakin doesn't have a chance.
I'm definitely am not as knowledgeable as others about the Star Wars series, but I thought NJO Luke was after DN Luke and more powerful.
I guess I am wrong?
Could you please tell me the order of Luke or the different versions of Luke by weakest to strongest.
Thx
Originally posted by Kotor3
I'm definitely am not as knowledgeable as others about the Star Wars series, but I thought NJO Luke was after DN Luke and more powerful.I guess I am wrong?
Could you please tell me the order of Luke or the different versions of Luke by weakest to strongest.
Thx
DE, JA, NJO, DN, LOTF - from weakest to strongest, in his major incarnations.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Anakin can't take every prequel combatant in a saber battle. Namely Sidious, Yoda, and Mace- they're beyond his capability to defeat, even if he can give 'em a tough fight.
Considering that Anakin not only was stronger than Dooku, but faster as well when he outright annihilates him, and Dooku was able to compete numerous times with Yoda, who's speed matches Sidious'...And that Pre-Suit Vader was stronger than 'in the zone' Anakin was because he was fully immersed in the Dark Side, I would say he definitely could take any PT duelist in a duel save for Mace.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
"You have to be Mace or Yoda to compete with the emperor."Anakin is absent from that statement. Palpatine takes him.
I have seen on many threads Dooku being an equal or match for Mace and Yoda in saber combat. If the above statement is to be taken literally then Dooku should be excluded also.
Mace, Yoda, and Sidious should be viewed as the top duelist for the PT era.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Anakin can't take every prequel combatant in a saber battle. Namely Sidious, Yoda, and Mace- they're beyond his capability to defeat, even if he can give 'em a tough fight.
don't forget obi-wan you know the guy that actually did fight him and removed his arm and legs leaving him for dead on fire next to a river of lava
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Anakin can't take every prequel combatant in a saber battle. Namely Sidious, Yoda, and Mace- they're beyond his capability to defeat, even if he can give 'em a tough fight.
none of these 3 are beyond Anakins ability to beat in a "Saber Only" contest. especially not Mace. Although Sidious and Yoda wuld destroy Anikan in an all out fight, but decent chance of Anakin taking Mace in an all out fight as well.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
"You have to be Mace or Yoda to compete with the emperor."Anakin is absent from that statement. Palpatine takes him.
Right...GL said that because, quite clearly, Palpatine would rape Anakin with the Force. Give me a quote where he says only Mace and Yoda can compete with Palpatine in a saber duel, and it'll hold more weight.
Anywho, if this is DE Luke, then:
1. Sabers, Anakin - 7/10.
2. Force, Luke - 9/10.
3. All Out, Anakin - 5.5/10.
Oh, give me a break. It's 'compete.' Anakin cannot compete with Anakin. PERIOD.
Not in force. Not in saber. Not in all out. GL said that because if Anakin could COMPETE with him in sabers, he'd be included there. Or do you think Mace somehow compares to Palpatine or Yoda with the Force? Since he's less powerful than Yoda by a nice margin.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Oh, give me a break. It's 'compete.' Anakin cannot compete with Anakin. PERIOD.Not in force. Not in saber. Not in all out. GL said that because if Anakin could COMPETE with him in sabers, he'd be included there. Or do you think Mace somehow compares to Palpatine or Yoda with the Force? Since he's less powerful than Yoda by a nice margin.
Thanks to Vaapad, yes. He can.
But really, you're saying he can absolutely destroy Dooku, who could compete and do well against Yoda in a saber battle...but he can't do similar to Sidious? After Anakin is stronger? That makes no sense.
Originally posted by EnyalusCompeting with Dooku isn't the same as competing with Palpatine, because Dooku's not Palpatine.
Thanks to Vaapad, yes. He can.But really, you're saying he can absolutely destroy Dooku, who could compete and do well against Yoda in a saber battle...but he can't do similar to Sidious? After Anakin is stronger? That makes no sense.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Considering that Anakin not only was stronger than Dooku, but faster as well when he outright annihilates him, and Dooku was able to compete numerous times with Yoda, who's speed matches Sidious'...And that Pre-Suit Vader was stronger than 'in the zone' Anakin was because he was fully immersed in the Dark Side, I would say he definitely could take any PT duelist in a duel save for Mace.
Purr-lease. First off, when Yoda and Dooku dueled, many would tell you that Yoda was holding back. Even on Djun, a planet extremely powerful in the dark side, when Dooku assaulted Yoda- with the full intent to kill- Yoda held back and refused to kill his own Padawan, and despite all that, he owned Dooku.
Anakin's a great saber combatant, but when he faces against people like Yoda and Sidious, he's simply doesn't have the speed, agility, and reflexes necessary to take care of 'em. First off, I need you to prove that Anakin defeated Dooku thanks to any advantages in speed. Yoda was obviously outclassing and dodging the vast majority of Dooku's attacks (I can provide some quotes from the AotC novel, if you want me to), and he only stalemated with Sidious in terms of speed.
Meanwhile, Anakin never displayed that sort of speed advantage over Dooku. He won thanks to stamina, force reserves, and sheer brute power. He ISN'T as fast as either Yoda, Sidious, or Mace, even if Mace isn't 'immersed in Vaapad'.