Sith Force Tournament

Started by Taven20 pages
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
How much power boost did he get?

He grows in power and refines his Force abilities for a further ten years (over three times his then 3 years of learning), gains the orbalisk armour which substantially enhances his Force powers, grows in understanding of the dark side and soon gains access to all of Sadow's knowledge. Clearly, the improvement was exponential.

Also, what kind of other techniques that Revan knew, did Bane unleashed in ROT?

I don't really see what point you're trying to make here.

This is a bad assumption.

It wasn't an assumption. The assumption would be the claim that Revan was himself just as hesitant. Pointing out how he wasn't necessarily any less hesitant is something we can simply conclusively say using logic and common sense.

Revan learned such deadly techniques for a reason. Now if he would be hesitant to use them, than why would he waste time to learn them in the first place?

It's highly probable that you wouldn't be in a position to know how deadly they are in application until you learn the inner workings of them, in which case Revan would have been blissfully ignorant of that as he went out of his way to learn them in the first place. It's also probable that he wanted to amass as much knowledge as he could for the future of his Order. You could extend the same exact question to Bane, you realise, considering how he himself went out of his way to learn them in the first place just as Revan had.

Also, Revan is "he" and nor "she." Seems to me that you defy canon more often than expected.

LOL. Relevance?

Dude! "Force Lightning" at ridiculous levels take the form of "Force Lightning Storm" and does lots of damage.

Define what you mean by "ridiculous" levels. Force storm lightning is simply area effect lightning, there are degrees of magnitude, and Bane displayed the ability to perform them with an unprecedented scale while still an initiate and not an hour after learning how to summon the base technique itself (lightning).

Revan mastered this technique

All we know is that he was said to have been capable of destroying a few parties of the Non Force Sensitive Ratakans with his application of the technique. Nowhere is it said he was a Master.

and his Lightning will also do serious damage.

To who? Someone like Bane? Bane was capable of absorbing a planetary level of Force lightning, storing it and keeping his internal organs protected from it, and spreading it across an entire world, and he's grown considerably since.

You are once again making a stupid assumption that Revan might not be able to use Force Lightning very well.

No he's not. He's saying "for all we know."

Do not forget that it was he who taught Bane how to make Force Lightning more potent.

No it wasn't. Bane was capable of such brilliance, with an unprecedented scale, with the simple working knowledge of the base technique itself (the mentioned Force lightning).

This shows that you can't grasp the bigger picture of the scenario or you don't want to.

LOL. The "bigger picture" has no relevance on this discussion.

Revan' knowledge actually paved the way for the Sith to rise once again. Hence, you should accept this fact and move on.

LOL. That actually made me ROFL (seriously, the rolling on the floor and everything).

In other-words, only a Sith Lord with great potential and strong affinity with the Force would be able to do what Revan could do and become very powerful like him.

Bane's midi-chlorian count is arguably second only to Anakin, his orbalisk aided Force strength is quite possibly the greatest ever, and his affinity with the Force is used as a measuring stick for Darth fricking Zannah, who could instakill Jedi, protect herself and her surroundings from something that was tearing through an entire planet, and implant her own power into others, all as an untrained 8 year old girl. What exactly is your point? Bane hes been proven to reach a level of power and ability that Revan can't be said to even approach, and that required absolutely astronomical potential and affinity with the Force.

Revan was so wise, smart and powerful that he was capable of re-shaping the future of the galaxy.

Partially, yes. Bane was far more influential and did far more for the future of the Sith than Revan could ever dream of, though again, relevance? This is a combat scenario you realise?

Bane's midi-chlorian count is arguably second only to Anakin

WHAT? Are you kidding right? What about, for example, Luke Skywalker, Darth Sidious or Master Yoda. Are they suppose to be weaker then Bane now?

God, don't get Taven started. EVERYONE is weaker than Bane to him. He's just a troll, anyways

It is quite amusing how some people try to make Revan into a scholar or politician. Knowledge without understanding is useless. The knowledge we do have about Revan clearly shows that he was a leader, teacher, and warrior. Bane was scared to use the techniques Revan knew, which has no bearing that Revan felt the same.

Revan used his knowledge from Malachor V to turn and train Jedi into sith. When Revan walked on Malachor V and survive through pure will power that did not stop him from plundering Malachor V and learning all he could. His knowledge of the Star Forge did not stop him from using the Star Forge. To assume that Revan knew and taught techniques that he himself was two scared to use is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Darth Angel
WHAT? Are you kidding right? What about, for example, Luke Skywalker, Darth Sidious or Master Yoda. Are they suppose to be weaker then Bane now?

Sidious doesn't have an astronomical midichlorian count, or his body wouldn't rot. As Yoda is his equal as of ROTS, it is possible his midichlorian count also isn't nearly on par with someone like Anakin (who's potential was twice that of Sidious at his peak).

Luke, you'd be right about. Taven probably overlooked him. The main reason for Sidious' power is his unprecedented and unparalleled knowledge of the Force - many times greater than most everyone else in the mythos. That, and the Dark is is naturally stronger than the Light.

Also, the notion that somehow Sidious is a tactical genius is absurd. Sidious was a master of grand strategy. There's plenty of evidence suggesting that his "tactics" suck. For anyone who doesn't understand the difference, I've written 60 page papers on Alexander the Great's grand strategy and his 'tactics' at the Seige of Tyre - come see me.

Revan not only possessed the gift of being a great war strategist, but a great war tactician. Saying that those skills wouldn't translate into individual combat is utterly stupid and unfounded.

Alexander the Great is the most brilliant military leader of Western civilization period.

Only Tzu, of China, is a possible equal, everybody else is a firm tier below.

Don't you ever say different.

Originally posted by DarkSerpent
Alexander the Great is the most brilliant military leader of Western civilization period.

Only Tzu, of China, is a possible equal, everybody else is a firm tier below.

Don't you ever say different.

Uh, I'd put Hannibal above Alexander, and Sun-Tzu didn't actually have much first hand experience with being supreme commander of a war effort. Sun Pin, his ancestor, was quite good, though. Ts'ao Ts'ao should be on your list, too. Along with Zhuge Liang.

Originally posted by Enyalus
When it comes to star wars i knows stuff. when it comes to REAL wars i know scwot.
Agreed.

What's 'scwot'?

Sidious doesn't have an astronomical midichlorian count, or his body wouldn't rot. As Yoda is his equal as of ROTS, it is possible his midichlorian count also isn't nearly on par with someone like Anakin (who's potential was twice that of Sidious at his peak).

Luke, you'd be right about. Taven probably overlooked him. The main reason for Sidious' power is his unprecedented and unparalleled knowledge of the Force - many times greater than most everyone else in the mythos. That, and the Dark is is naturally stronger than the Light.

What kind of thought is that? Tell me where or when anyone stated that Sidious' body was degradating since his midichlorian count was low... And as far as I know Yoda was pretty much stated as the jedi with highest midichlorian count from the jedi order of his time by obi-wan (when he states anakins one)... I mean, this isn't even discussible, sidious was stated was the most POWERFUL sith lord ever many times, and even though knowledge helps a lot, it can't make you surpass your potential. And if sidious was so powerful was due to his huge potential...

Also, the notion that somehow Sidious is a tactical genius is absurd. Sidious was a master of grand strategy. There's plenty of evidence suggesting that his "tactics" suck. For anyone who doesn't understand the difference, I've written 60 page papers on Alexander the Great's grand strategy and his 'tactics' at the Seige of Tyre - come see me.

Revan not only possessed the gift of being a great war strategist, but a great war tactician. Saying that those skills wouldn't translate into individual combat is utterly stupid and unfounded.

May you state when did his tactics miss? Because as far as I know he was the only sith who truly conquered the republic. And he did that single handed...

Uh, I'd put Hannibal above Alexander, and Sun-Tzu didn't actually have much first hand experience with being supreme commander of a war effort. Sun Pin, his ancestor, was quite good, though. Ts'ao Ts'ao should be on your list, too. Along with Zhuge Liang.

Alexander surpassed Hannibal, even hannibal himself stated that. In fact, if you know alexander's battles, then you should know who incredibly good his war tactics war, not only relying in his cavalry as hannibal did, but also a great siege conquer for example, something hannibal was not. I am not denying Hannibal's awesomeness (carthage is one of my favourite ancient civilizations ans cannae was a war masterpiece) but nonetheless alexander surpassed him by his feats.

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Originally posted by Darth Angel
You're not supposed to answer social question until you have established yourself.

How about you stop double posting.

Sidious never conquered the Old Republic, he simply schemed and connived his way to the top, then convinced to give up their freedom.

It wasn''t meant to be a double post, I TRIPLE post often and REX and Ush haven't said anything so...

How 'bout you stop being a *****?

What is a social question for you? Besides, since when can you tell me when or where should I reply? Just lol...

EDIT.

Just some advice...

Originally posted by DarkSerpent
It wasn''t meant to be a double post, I TRIPLE post often and REX and Ush haven't said anything so...

Use the edit button. Oh and considered yourself reported for it too 😉

Whiny troll.

If Sidious makes it to the end well, he could take it.

No matter who makes it, they die of exhaustion.

Palpy is more of a big picture guy.