Just got back from homecoming (whereupon I got first runner up!); excuse the delay.
Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Rofl its amusing when you try to sound like a badass.
You lost me at 'Rofl its amusing....' Originality is leaving something to be desired with you. And as if I have to try... I exude badassery.
Again your dancing around the point. They may have been fine swordsman, but if they were joke compared to Mace than they were not the orders best swordsmen like you said. Mace and Yoda would be above them at the very least. And the disparity of power is so great that I doubt they were the next 3 in line but either way being among the best of the PT Jedi order means nothing in comparison to Ragnos.
Don't accuse me of point dodging, please. You look like a big enough ass already. You're the one who attempted to undermine the credibility and reputation of Masters Tinn, Kolar, and Fisto. The cold, dark truth to the matter is that you're not in a position to. The novelization and visual guide laud the abilities of those three swordsmen; your opinion is nothing in the face of that. But, please, do continue. Your inherent egotism that directs you to defy canon only with your opinion is something that all of us are enjoying. With each post, you prove that -- no matter what people might say -- I'm not the most arrogant person around here.
By the way, please prove that Marka Ragnos is more powerful than those three Jedi. 😉
[see, when I lose all generosity, I can throw out points like that and effectively stall your entire argument]
You dont know what to say because apparently you arent capable of understanding the simple logic of omniscient narrator limited.
When you can prove that the omniscient narrator is limited, we'll readdress this. Until then, don't bring this up again.
Dont put words in my mouth. My premise was that Palpatine lost the saber duel, which is quite obvious. Your premise was that Palpatine fought Mace to a standstill. Palpatine may have equal saber skills to mace which I never denied, but like you said Mace is the better overall duelist and Palpatine lost fairly.
No one denied that Palpatine lost the duel. But Palpatine, skill-to-skill, fought Windu to a standstill, hence my point. Though I do appreciate the backhanded concession; seems to be prominent practice these days.
No its not relevent. Lack of practice is a weakness just like any other weakness, it doesnt excuse Palpatine from losing the duel. This is getting tiresome, bring valid arguments to the table or go home.
It is relevant. No one is proclaiming that it is a weakness. The only weakness here is your comprehension of basic linguistics. The point is that Palpatine managed to demonstrate lightsaber prowess equal to that of Mace "I-invented-the-deadliest-lightsaber-form-and-was-the-youngest-member-of-the-Jedi-High-Council-ever" Windu despite the fact that he hadn't practiced in years. I bring this up only to highlight his skills. It's relevant; deal with it.
No is denying that the narrator has an omniscient awareness of his own characters. That you would even bring up this point is evidence that you really dont understand what your arguing.
Again, I'm rather insulted with the idea of you lecturing me on anything. If I need tips on the quickest methods by which to gain weight or social isolation, I'll come to you. In the interim, do keep your advice to yourself, sir.
Umm....the structure is the tower. The blast didnt destroy the tower at all, stop being dense.
Hmm. The interior is ruined, the glass was shattered, people were dead, machines were obliterated, the lights were out. The tower was effectively destroyed. Deal with it.
This isnt even relevent to what I was saying.
It is. Put down the chips and pick up a book, sir. All you have for Ragnos is implications of power. I have feats, statements, and implications for Palpatine. When you put them on the table, I'll always come out with the better hand. You're not going to change that. 😉
*Your* interpretation is not the straightforward interpretation. Ive explained the mechanics of omniscient narrator limited endless times, and provided a source to back up my claims, and no one has provided the proof that your sources operate under different rules. The ball is in your court. Prove up.
My interpretation is the correct one. Anything contrary to the straightforward interpretation carries the burden of proof. For example, the statement: "Palpatine is the most powerful Sith Lord ever" in the context of a duel with Yoda. Should you wish to contest that, it's your burden to prove.
Again, we're not going through this again. I've taken enough time to wade in through your idiocy and attempt to establish a mental bridge from my world (the real one) to your land of fiction and egotism where everything you say is fact. Failure to comply will destroy this bridge and I'm doing this out of charity since, believe me, I'm not obligated to prove Palpatine's superiority. We've been through it all before.