Darth Vader VS Shaak Ti

Originally posted by truejedi
i think that part got burned off too bro

Originally posted by Enyalus
Oooooh, I like the RODV quotage.

But really, when has Darth Vader killed any Council-level Jedi? He loses to Obi-Wan. And in the Jedi Temple, Shaak Ti also duels him and manages to escape. Implying he couldn't kill her then, in his unsuited form. We all agree that he was a better duelist than in his mech form. She also fends off a dozen or so ManaGuards and is able to hold her own against General Grievous at his peak for a while.

She's a better swordsman. And better swordsmen have a habit of overcoming those who are more powerful in the Force. Anakin over Dooku and Mace over Sidious for example.

Pardon me? Where is it proven that Shaak Ti engaged Vader and escaped him? The RotS novelization has her murdered at Vader's hand, as I recall. Nothing suggests she fought him and then escaped. And Kenobi's victory is due to mental stability, not superior technique.

Originally posted by Gideon
The RotS novelization has her murdered at Vader's hand, as I recall.

I have not read the ROTS novel in a long time so i may be wrong, but i believe it said Anakin and the clones killed everyone in the temple, and Shaak Ti was in the temple.

Originally posted by Faunus
He kills the Gatekeeper and then runs off to find Shaak Ti. Her final fate isn't revealed until TFU.

Does he engage her?

No. Apparently she escapes during the attack

She engages him briefly, realizes she can't beat him and the 501st, and runs.

She survives the Temple's destruction. You really think she somehow snuck out unnoticed? Especially when Vader knew she was there guarding it? (He speaks to her just prior to going to Palpatine's office while Mace is there.)

I'm pretty sure it's also said she knew she couldn't defeat him and made good an escape, though. If she could have killed him, she would have

I don't recall any of this. Where it stated? The RotS novelization or some other source?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
If she could have killed him, she would have

No doubt. I didn't say she could.

LS, do you remember the source?

Unfortunately, no.

Originally posted by Gideon
I don't recall any of this. Where it stated? The RotS novelization or some other source?

Ive scimmed through the ROTS book and didn't find the shaak ti fight.

no actual confrontation between the two. Anakin is searching for shaak-ti when he enters the jedi temple. The GateMaster tells him that shaak ti is in the meditation chamber, then anakin kills the gatemaster, and that's the last time the name of Shaak ti is mentioned in the novel.

But i was always under the impression that Shaak Ti died on the invinsible hand? (grievous killed her, i thought) but i guess that wouldn't make sense or Anakin wouldn't have been looking for her, and she wouldnt have been in TFU. I could have sworn i remember grievous killing her though.

Originally posted by truejedi
no actual confrontation between the two. Anakin is searching for shaak-ti when he enters the jedi temple. The GateMaster tells him that shaak ti is in the meditation chamber, then anakin kills the gatemaster, and that's the last time the name of Shaak ti is mentioned in the novel.

But i was always under the impression that Shaak Ti died on the invinsible hand? (grievous killed her, i thought) but i guess that wouldn't make sense or Anakin wouldn't have been looking for her, and she wouldnt have been in TFU. I could have sworn i remember grievous killing her though.

Non canon, sir.

deleted scenes are non-canon. you learn something new every day.

Originally posted by Gideon
The RotS novelization has her murdered at Vader's hand, as I recall.

The fact that she's alive and well in TFU kinda... retcons that, don't it?

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
The fact that she's alive and well in TFU kinda... retcons that, don't it?

Yessir. But that was in response to Enyalus telling me that some source had her fight Vader and then flee.

he doesn't kill shaak ti in the novelization. He kills Cin Drallig, Younglings, and the gatekeeper, I guess he never found Shaak Ti.

Originally posted by truejedi
he doesn't kill shaak ti in the novelization. He kills Cin Drallig, Younglings, and the gatekeeper, I guess he never found Shaak Ti.

[Gideon] Fall down some stairs, please, sir! [/Gideon]

Yeah, we know. Currently, we're trying to find out where she supposedly did fight him.

I doubt that Shaak Ti would beat Pre-Suit Vader, even on Felucia. For me that just doesn't seem right.