The fight should end when Exar Kun sees Bane, extends his hand, and loosens an amulet blast capable of vaporizing him. But seeing as how he didn't do that to Ulic, he probably wouldn't do so here.
He'd engage Bane in a saber duel - and while I believe Kun is the better duelist - Bane's orbalisks would give him the advantage and the win.
Sabers I'd give ROT Bane the win with difficulty seeing as how Kun's form is unique but thanks to the orbalisks Bane's is aswell, In a force fight Kun could win with his amulets or his lightning if he actually hits him with it, Bane is can kill Kun just as quickly with his lightning so that can truly go either way though I'd still personally give Bane a slight edge. All out Bane wins with difficulty.
Re: Dath Bane v. Exar Kun
Originally posted by hammerofthorYour opinion<canon.
its my opinion that bane and kun were the two most powerful sith. if they fought who would win and how would the fight play out.
Sabers: Kun. I don't know too much about the Orbalisks, but whether or not Bane is made invulnerable to lightsabers because of them, I still say Kun is a better duelist.
Bane wins the rest though, assuming his Orbalisks can withstand Kun's amulets.
Originally posted by Enyalus
The fight should end when Exar Kun sees Bane, extends his hand, and loosens an amulet blast capable of vaporizing him. But seeing as how he didn't do that to Ulic, he probably wouldn't do so here.He'd engage Bane in a saber duel - and while I believe Kun is the better duelist - Bane's orbalisks would give him the advantage and the win.
Urm. I don't see how Bane's orbalisks would give him an advantage over the guy who, according to KotoR, wore a Light Battle Suit made out of cortosis-weave, that would short-circuit every lightsaber on contact.
I personally don't see Bane doing too good, attempting to fight Exar with his bare hands.
I fail to see how the amulet blasts will necessarily even register to Bane, given how he could tank planetary level energies back in his PoD days. Yeah, Bane wins this one easily; he's demonstrated far greater power (absorbing, storing, and channeling planetary energies, and at a time far from his current peak in power) and mastery to boot (subatomic alterations with the Force).
Originally posted by Taven
I fail to see how the amulet blasts will necessarily even register to Bane, given how he could tank planetary level energies back in his PoD days. Yeah, Bane wins this one easily; he's demonstrated far greater power (absorbing, storing, and channeling planetary energies, and at a time far from his current peak in power) and mastery to boot (subatomic alterations with the Force).
I thought that channeling the lightning was part of a ritual, in which the other participants had no wish to harm Bane. As part of a ritual, it isn't a very strong combat feat.
The creation of holocrons has been successfully done in the past, and in the future. Bane is NOT unique in this showing. Heck, even Darth Nihlius (sp?) made a holocron, and he's the exact opposite of subtlety.
The amulet blasts are presumably powered through dark side energy, much like sith Lightning. Since the Orbalisks' weakness is said energy, rather than electricity specifically, I would be willing to bet that the outcome would be similar. Bane smoking on the ground, in a coma.
Originally posted by Borbarad
Urm. I don't see how Bane's orbalisks would give him an advantage over the guy who, according to KotoR, wore a Light Battle Suit made out of cortosis-weave, that would short-circuit every lightsaber on contact.I personally don't see Bane doing too good, attempting to fight Exar with his bare hands.
Ah, I didn't know that about Kun. Is that from the KOTOR Campaign Guide? (Been trying to find that.)
Originally posted by Jbill311
The amulet blasts are presumably powered through dark side energy, much like sith Lightning. Since the Orbalisks' weakness is said energy, rather than electricity specifically, I would be willing to bet that the outcome would be similar. Bane smoking on the ground, in a coma.
😐 No...the orbalisks' weakness is electricity. The orbalisks feed upon Dark Side energy. The reason why Bane's lightning fried some of them was because they fed so much, it overloaded what they could handle. Judging from how powerful Kun's blasts are, they would probably overload the orbalisks too. But that's not really proven. And sort of moot - because Bane's head would be gone (vaporized).
Originally posted by Borbarad
Urm. I don't see how Bane's orbalisks would give him an advantage over the guy who, according to KotoR, wore a Light Battle Suit made out of cortosis-weave, that would short-circuit every lightsaber on contact.I personally don't see Bane doing too good, attempting to fight Exar with his bare hands.
Game mechanics there. The first cortosis suit was constructed after Kun died according to Evil Never Dies...also, cortosis weave armor is just gonna prevent a saber from cutting through, not deactivate it. Cortosis ore does that. Weave will just mean that it can't cut through and strong, repeated strikes will break through.
As a duelist, Bane arguably exceeds Kun in skill. He's bigger, likely faster and stronger and more powerful
That's interesting: i never thought of that. I argued KOTOR could teach us nothing about characters, b/c everything happens in/game. But.... If KOTOR tells us that a character wore or used something found in the game.... Does that mean they actually did? and if they did, is it at least partially good. Sure, a +4 of anythign would have to go to the wayside, but what about complete immunity from something? that sounds a little more factual.
Originally posted by Jbill311
[B]I thought that channeling the lightning was part of a ritual, in which the other participants had no wish to harm Bane. As part of a ritual, it isn't a very strong combat feat.
They had no wish to harm Bane, yes, but the fact remains that they needed to transfer all of their power into Bane as quickly as they could, in the form of Sith lightning, which regardless of the intent, is lethal by nature, and would require that the person receiving it be capable of protecting themselves from it. Which Bane did with no real visible signs of effort, with less than a quarter of the experience he - as of Ro2 - possesses, before gaining the Force power enhancing orbalisk armour, before learning directly from the entirety of Sadow's knowledge, and before gaining a far deeper understanding of the darkside.
The creation of holocrons has been successfully done in the past, and in the future. Bane is NOT unique in this showing. Heck, even Darth Nihlius (sp?) made a holocron, and he's the exact opposite of subtlety.
Don't believe everything you read, Jim. Holocron making isn't even implied to require the creator be capable of subatomic control. All that's said is that Bane manipulated the crystalline strands on the subatomic scale to ensure that they fitted into place; to argue that the extra precautions that Bane was in a position to take would have been utilised by anybody to ever make a holocron would be a fallacy of association. So no, as it stands, Bane is the only Force User in the mythos who can be said to possess such a fine level of control. Nobody has demonstrated anything even close, and it speaks volumes for his mastery of the Force, and how efficiently he can generate his own power on a small scale (an example being on an Exar Kun sized body).
The amulet blasts are presumably powered through dark side energy, much like sith Lightning. Since the Orbalisks' weakness is said energy, rather than electricity specifically, I would be willing to bet that the outcome would be similar. Bane smoking on the ground, in a coma.
Was anybody even arguing that the orbalisks would be capable of stopping them? Who says that Bane would even allow the amulet blasts to hit the orbalisks in the first place? Again, that Bane could use the Force to manipulate planetary energies ten years before his current peak in power would lead to the logical conclusion that he'd be capable of blocking or redirecting the amulet blasts with laughable ease. These amulets may be the be all end all when characters like Count Dooku or Darth Maul are involved, but they quite simply aren't in the same universe as planetary level tankers. They're a non factor in this fight.
Not to mention, you're completely wrong about the orbalisks; it's not the dark side energy specifically that they possess an inherent weakness against, but the electricity itself, as best shown when the electricity within the Umbaaran Assassin's stun pikes had the exact same effect on them as regular Force lightning did.
Sorry but Bane has no defense against the amulet blasts. At the same time, Bane seems to be the better saber duelist and IS familiar with Kun's form, seeing as how Zannah's lightsaber was exactly like Kun's. In the force department they are pretty much equal. If this is POD2 Bane, then his force knowledge most likely exceeds that of Kun's, considering he learned from Revan and then from Nadd.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Bane seems to be the better saber duelist and IS familiar with Kun's form, seeing as how Zannah's lightsaber was exactly like Kun's. In the force department they are pretty much equal.
I don't think it was actually all that similar. Kun's saber uses the single blade hilt but from what I gather (and from the cover of Rot) Zannah's saber is the normal double bladed hilt however the blades themselves are about a half a meter smaller(due to her size I believe) then normal double blades(and Kun's) and as far as I know Zannah can't alter the blade lengths like Kun can.
Problem for Exar is the taller Bane has an advantage with height preventing Exar from striking easily at the one vulnerable spot...whereas Exar's unfamiliar style won't take long for Bane to adapt to as familiar with the DBL as he is and he's got an equal advantage with his curved hilt, which to my my knowledge, the style Exar has never encountered.
Throw in the orbalisks and Exar is gonna have serious trouble landing a hit before his head rolls