Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Can you say Jango lol. Seriously even if Krayt had armor made of pure Courtis Dooku would kill him, quite comfortably if I might add
With a lightsaber? I wouldn't be too sure of that. Krayt is a great duelist, and uses two lightsabers to parry Dooku's single blade. Plus the lightsaber resistant armor. And it isn't as though Makashi - Dooku's preferred style - excels at decapitations. Its aimed at thrusts and precise cuts to the hand and arm regions, mostly. Dooku still takes sabers, but it isn't a walk through.
1. Sabers, Dooku - 6/10.
2. Force, Dooku - 9/10.
3. All Out, Dooku - 8/10.
Dooku completely ruins him. This is the man who toyed with Sora Bulq - who was himself one of the greatest lightsaber instructors the Jedi Order had ever known - outclassed Skywalker several months into the war, dueled Mace Windu basically to a standstill and was noted to have "perhaps" only two equals or superiors amongst the Jedi, and made Yoda work for it on Geonosis. Krayt doesn't stand a chance.
I'm not sure if I agree with you, Faunus, that Dooku riuns hims. I've been looking him up recently and he seems like he's probably pretty capable. As a padawan he was able to defeat Aurra Sing. Later, he was a General during the Clone Wars. During the Clone Wars he fought alongside Anakin and, long story short, Anakin ended up attacking Hett, yet Hett was able to disarm Anakin and then fix things between them. Years later he fought Obi-wan and did lose, but this was to Obi-wan several years after the Purge.
So at that point I wouldn't put him as capable of defeating Dooku, but then he does the typical finding of a Sith holocron and then spends several years learning from it and comes out more powerful. By the time we see him in Legacy he is about 170 years old and probably capable of giving Dooku a run for his money I think.
According to the Clone Wars Visual Dictionary, Count Dooku "attempt[s] to gain the upper hand" in his duel with Anakin Skywalker on Tattooine by revealing that Ahsoka is in danger of General Grievous's Magnaguards. After that, he gets a boot to the face and is knocked on his ass.
While he does demonstrate superiority over Anakin in their brief Force engagement, he couldn't get the upper hand in swordsmanship during that duel.
Originally posted by Gideon
According to the Clone Wars Visual Dictionary, Count Dooku "attempt[s] to gain the upper hand" in his duel with Anakin Skywalker on Tattooine by revealing that Ahsoka is in danger of General Grievous's Magnaguards. After that, he gets a boot to the face and is knocked on his ass.While he does demonstrate superiority over Anakin in their brief Force engagement, he couldn't get the upper hand in swordsmanship during that duel.
@Glentract:
1) How would Obi-Wan be any better a swordsman after the Purge? At best, he should only be as skilled as he was.
2) Krayt hasn't done anything that would put him anywhere near Dooku's level.
Originally posted by Enyalus
With a lightsaber? I wouldn't be too sure of that. Krayt is a great duelist, and uses two lightsabers to parry Dooku's single blade. Plus the lightsaber resistant armor. And it isn't as though Makashi - Dooku's preferred style - excels at decapitations. Its aimed at thrusts and precise cuts to the hand and arm regions, mostly. Dooku still takes sabers, but it isn't a walk through.1. Sabers, Dooku - 6/10.
2. Force, Dooku - 9/10.
3. All Out, Dooku - 8/10.
I don't exactly see the specific purpose, anyways. All this does is weaken the relative abilities of the upper tier villains. I mean, Ahoska going against three Magnaguards? WTF. And then later going against General Grievous.
She better be disarmed in, like, a second. And even then, Grievous needs to be toying with her.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I'm not sure if I agree with you, Faunus, that Dooku riuns hims. I've been looking him up recently and he seems like he's probably pretty capable. As a padawan he was able to defeat Aurra Sing. Later, he was a General during the Clone Wars. During the Clone Wars he fought alongside Anakin and, long story short, Anakin ended up attacking Hett, yet Hett was able to disarm Anakin and then fix things between them. Years later he fought Obi-wan and did lose, but this was to Obi-wan several years after the Purge.So at that point I wouldn't put him as capable of defeating Dooku, but then he does the typical finding of a Sith holocron and then spends several years learning from it and comes out more powerful. By the time we see him in Legacy he is about 170 years old and probably capable of giving Dooku a run for his money I think.
Are you really going to acknowledge the disarming of a berserker lunatic as Anakin at that point or getting the drop on Sing-Jax Pavan can do that, too- as great feats? Hett was good, but not to the best level. Certainly not to Sora Bulq who Dooku destroyed in combat. Certainly not to Grievous or to Anakin at the end. And Dooku was far superior to Obi-wan as well.