Orion,Thor,Wonder Woman,Beta Ray Bill vs. Superman,Silver Surfer, Hal Jordan, Sentry

Started by Red Hulk15 pages

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Prove he can make an element that exists not only outside marvel but outside mainstream dc itself(hint you can't),and its not like orion can't make a shield from the astro force.
Radion exists in our 'universe'...

Really...Ive only seen it in the new gods universe.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Don't really know how SS fights smarter lol, if anything Norrin is the worst case of CIS u will find in comics today. Sur ehe has versatilit, if orion doesnt have the harness I could give it to SS....but orion has S beat in MA,physical strength and combat speed. Diana has the combat speed,MA advantage and yes...has better mobility. SS only really goes fast when traveling, really isnt any shinning examples of SS combat speed to be honest.

Surfer uses his brain and takes out his opponent in a "think outside the box" fashion more often, that's how he's the smarter fighter. Need proof? Take a look at his fights with the Hulk(energy manipulation), Wonder Man and the Vision(energy manipulation), Lunatik(genetic restructuring), Legacy(offensive transmutation), Firelord(energy manipulation), the Obliterator(indirect transmutation) and any number of others. He may not do it right out of the gate, but it doesn't take him long to get there. And Orion doesn't have him beaten in combat speed unless you have proof to support the claim.

And I'll need to see proof supporting WW being more mobile as well. Keep in mind that the opponents start at .5 kilometer's apart, what feats spanning these distances does WW have to support her being more mobile? Because I can post several instances of Surfer scouring cities, and even entire planets in mere seconds...

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Or knowing the difference between combat speed and travelling.

LOL. Point out one of the scans i showed that shows SS "travelling". All of them had SS manoevring at high speeds in a non straight line manner while in battle. One even had him blitzing and blasting multiple targets at superspeed. But oh yeah thats "travelling"

Ur own daft logic is even self contradictory.

SS initiating multiple blasts at superspeeds while IN COMBAT, is somehow irrelevant IN COMBAT situations 😱

And yet flash and quicksilver initiating multiple punches at superspeed while IN COMBAT is different.

You dont even make sense. 🙁

element x is no longer the god's weakness. It's used to power mother boxes and the mobius chair. You'd think with all that around they'd be dead.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
😱 lol at the nonsense . Wonderwoman bullrushed Amazo and so what? SS has much faster bullrushing speed than diana can even imagine. U obviously have no idea what u r talking about ONCE AGAIN. SS doesnt utilize speed in close quarters? In what part of the OP did u see that this fight was close quarter h2h combat? SS is very maneuvrable on his board and is so much faster than Diana its not even funny. She would have almost no chance of lassoing him at all not to mention he can just phase out. He can also use blasts while zipping around on his boards at such speeds so no diana wont be blocking jack. Also encasing her would be easy as hell for SS. SS can encase multiple people with a thought. No matter how fast wonderwoman is running/flying Ss moves at least ( and im being conservative) 1000000 times faster. After he renders her immobile he impales her with sharp constructs.

So lets see here,

Her lasso is useless in this match
Her H2H speed advantage is irrelevant
SS has movement and manoevrability advantage
SS has evry other advantage in this match.

But somehow Diana wins or has a chance of winning? 🤣

when surfer's blast is reflected back in his face then what?

Originally posted by fangirl101
when surfer's blast is reflected back in his face then what?

SS congratulates her for blocking his blasts, then encases her in an ethel energy shell, and impales her.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Orion doesn't have combat speed on Surfer unless you have some proof to back the claim. And aside from Surfer beating Orion as far as pure versatility goes, Surfer also "fights smarter" and is the clear victor of the two IMO for that reason.

And WW would get absolutely wasted by Surfer. He's too fast and maneuverable for her to grab with her lasso given the starting distance between the two, and if she's tries to use the lasso it means her hands will be too occupied to deflect incoming attacks with her bracers.

Orion's energy far outstrips Surfer's. he's also faster, has the MB that is as versatile as Thor and can amp, and Orion is a better fighter and Is faster than surfer. By alot.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
SS congratulates her for blocking his blasts, then encases her in an ethel energy shell, and impales her.
because Thor and BRB and Orion are going to be letting this happen? Sentry can be taken out by any of the other three faster than surfer can take out Diana. Unless you show me surfer encashing someone as fast as her in energy. Or is it just as Possible that She can lasso Surfer in less time than it takes for your lil scenario?

Originally posted by fangirl101
because Thor and BRB and Orion are going to be letting this happen? Sentry can be taken out by any of the other three faster than surfer can take out Diana. Unless you show me surfer encashing someone as fast as her in energy. Or is it just as Possible that She can lasso Surfer in less time than it takes for your lil scenario?

Not even close. SS speed and manoevrability straight up shits on dianas. Also SS can pull off multiple encasements with a thought. Much quicker than the time she has to try and lasso him ( which wud be a futile exercise anyhow).

and oh yeah this scenario only occurs if SS somehow gets into a one on one with wonderwoman ( may not be likely to happen but im only discussing what would happen if it did).

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Not even close. SS speed and manoevrability straight up shits on dianas. Also SS can pull off multiple encasements with a thought. Much quicker than the time she has to try and lasso him ( which wud be a futile exercise anyhow).

and oh yeah this scenario only occurs if SS somehow gets into a one on one with wonderwoman ( may not be likely to happen but im only discussing what would happen if it did).


surfer's travel speed is better than Diana's. She shits all over him when it come it comes to combat speed and reflexes. And that is the truth. Stop wanking surfer. He has a hard time with Bricks like the hulk unless he uses some energy draining win. That won't happen with Diana.She could easily Hold Surfer Off for as Long as she did Amazo. She only has to Hold him off until Who ever fight's Sentry wins.

Originally posted by fangirl101
He has a hard time with Bricks like the hulk unless he uses some energy draining win.
He does?

Originally posted by fangirl101
He has a hard time with Bricks like the hulk unless he uses some energy draining win.
Not wanting to kill Hulk and other bricks is having hard time?

Originally posted by fangirl101
He has a hard time with Bricks like the hulk unless he uses some energy draining win.
😂

Hulk is pretty much a nonentity when he fights Surfer.

Having a hard time with Hulk is not a bad thing also check Hulks record.

Gladiator , Thor , Avengers etc all has harder time with Hulk than Surfer 🙂

I just don't see how WW beats SS. Lord knows I love her, but I don't see her KO'ing him and I doubt Tiara decap would work. She would probably be able to deflect most of his energy attacks but he would just change strategies and encase her in something. If she lasso'ed him then he could phase out of it, right?

This is just what if's of course. I really doubt that he would go after her. More likely than not the characters that know each other best will head straight for each other, which means . . .
WW vs Supes
Thor vs Surfer
leaving . . .
Orion vs Hal
BRB vs Sentry

Bill wins his match pretty easily and in plenty of time to go over and help Thor finish off SS. I'm very confident that both Diana and Orion can keep their opponents occupied long enough for the brothers to finish up and come lend a hand. In *this* particular scenario, Team 1 wins.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
In *this* particular scenario, Team 1 wins.

I think Team One wins the majority of the time, too.

Is it wrong if I think that Orion is the weak link on the team, though?

Originally posted by Enyalus

Is it wrong if I think that Orion is the weak link on the team, though?

Wonder Woman is the weakest link.

Team 1.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Wonder Woman is the weakest link.

After seeing some of her battles against Superman and Amazo, I'm not so sure.