Originally posted by Raoul
yes, tbh...
I'll reread Genesis (Don't have any other New God material except for DOTNG) again, but with standard gear isn't he simply a brick who isn't strong enough to take down Superman, with a harness that shoots beams?
That's pretty one dimensional, right? I mean, Wonder Woman written properly (using her lasso and all) should be able to do at least that well against Superman.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I'll reread Genesis (Don't have any other New God material except for DOTNG) again, but with standard gear isn't he simply a brick who isn't strong enough to take down Superman, with a harness that shoots beams?That's pretty one dimensional, right? I mean, Wonder Woman written properly (using her lasso and all) should be able to do at least that well against Superman.
he's said to be equal to superman in strength, and they've fought enough to make it a reasonable statement. his 'beams' as you said, are focused blasts of the astro force. the astro force is insanely powerful.
he also has a mother box...
DOTNG isn't great, tbh... for general NG stuff, kirby's fourth world would be a good place to start imo...
Originally posted by Enyalus
After seeing some of her battles against Superman and Amazo, I'm not so sure.
She's impressive, but the rest of the team is even more so.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I'll reread Genesis (Don't have any other New God material except for DOTNG) again, but with standard gear isn't he simply a brick who isn't strong enough to take down Superman, with a harness that shoots beams?That's pretty one dimensional, right? I mean, Wonder Woman written properly (using her lasso and all) should be able to do at least that well against Superman.
Astro Force is as versatile as Thors uru hammer.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I'll reread Genesis (Don't have any other New God material except for DOTNG) again, but with standard gear isn't he simply a brick who isn't strong enough to take down Superman, with a harness that shoots beams?That's pretty one dimensional, right? I mean, Wonder Woman written properly (using her lasso and all) should be able to do at least that well against Superman.
Not this again. Orion isn't a brick and has shown his versatility through the MB and Astro Force. Not only has he gone toe to toe with Superman, but he has taken him down as well.
Originally posted by cloud102
Not this again. Orion isn't a brick and has shown his versatility through the MB and Astro Force. Not only has he gone toe to toe with Superman, but he has taken him down as well.
My bad. As I freely admitted, I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to New God stuff. Just seemed to me like most of the appearances I've seen, he hits people hard and fires energy blasts, while getting his MB to heal him. And that's about it.
Originally posted by Enyalus
My bad. As I freely admitted, I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to New God stuff. Just seemed to me like most of the appearances I've seen, he hits people hard and fires energy blasts, while getting his MB to heal him. And that's about it.
Yeah, that's how a lot of writers like to write him. Morrison on the other hand made him create the Genesis Box, which restarted the universe and wiped it clean of Darkseid's taint. A high for Orion.
Waid on the otherhand had him weakened by FIRE. sigh.
Simonson had him do a variety of stuff with the Astro Force and Mother Box.
In one run of the New Gods, Orion defeated Darkseid by jumping INSIDE his body. I forgot some of the details as I haven't read the story in a while.
Superman,Silver Surfer, Hal Jordan, Sentry
hands down.
I mean Superman and Silver Surfer are stronger than anyone on the other team. So unless team 1 has some Kryptonite they are in trouble. Moreover, the Sentry is probably really strong. Comparable to Superman and Silver Surfer. Orion and Thor are the strongest on the other team but they still lose.
Originally posted by fangirl101
surfer's travel speed is better than Diana's. She shits all over him when it come it comes to combat speed and reflexes. And that is the truth. Stop wanking surfer. He has a hard time with Bricks like the hulk unless he uses some energy draining win. That won't happen with Diana.She could easily Hold Surfer Off for as Long as she did Amazo. She only has to Hold him off until Who ever fight's Sentry wins.
Stop making a fool of urself with daft statements . Ive already provided examples of surfer using his extremely quick movement speed and manoeuvring in BATTLE. Surfer makes use of his movement speed in combat so yeah he is way to manoevrable and fast to get hit by diana's lasso. The only thing diana is better than him at is pure H2H speed and that is irrelevant in this match considering how fast SS can move and blast.
LOL. SS has a hard time with Bricks like Hulk? U are obviously confused and have absolutely no idea what the hell u are talking about. Have u ever read any SS vs Hulk fight?
Lord!, the level of nonsense that some posters spout is just unbelievable 😱
Its exactly how it would go,Orion is a high herald level character when not held back by PIS,the astro force would drop superman,thor has stalemated surfer everytime they fought,BB can at the very least stalemate with hal and Diana is more then enough to keep sentry busy,go read some new gods comics and get back to me.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Its exactly how it would go,Orion is a high herald level character when not held back by PIS,the astro force would drop superman,thor has stalemated surfer everytime they fought,BB can at the very least stalemate with hal and Diana is more then enough to keep sentry busy,go read some new gods comics and get back to me.
Circumstances have come into play in all thor and surfers fights
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Its exactly how it would go,Orion is a high herald level character when not held back by PIS,the astro force would drop superman,thor has stalemated surfer everytime they fought,BB can at the very least stalemate with hal and Diana is more then enough to keep sentry busy,go read some new gods comics and get back to me.
Superman would beat Orion to a bloody pulp. The others I don't know. Maybe Thor could take the Silver Surfer, I will look into it. But no way Diana takes down the Sentry. She won't be able to buy enough time for someone to come to her aid. Honestly, Sentry will mess her up. I mean she lost to storm okay, in the marvel dc crossover over comic. That says something.
Superman gets dropped,orion is his physical equal in every way and the astro force>>>>>>>>>>anything superman has in his arsenal,orion under his own power has reversed universal ending energies,LOL at using marvel vs dc for any comparison ww has held her own against superman level foes time and time again,one shot from the astro force from a serious orion and superman is splattered.
Actually Simonson has stated Orion stronger and in Superman Confidential, Orion takes down Superman. In DONG, Orion and Superman go toe to toe and seem even. In Cosmic Odyssey, Orion actually holds back and in the crossover with the villain who can mess with reality, Orion is brought in to take down a super charged Superman because it is said he is the only one. Yeah, Superman isn't his superior.