Originally posted by yungz22
at the end of the day she was in no way considered a prodigy.
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-243-7/naruto/chapter-238.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-95-6/naruto/chapter-90.html
(Better than Sasuke)
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-23-16/naruto/chapter-18.html
She is called better than the prodigious Sasuke.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-243-7/naruto/chapter-238.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-95-6/naruto/chapter-90.html
(Better than Sasuke)
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-23-16/naruto/chapter-18.htmlShe is called better than the prodigious Sasuke.
kakashi was goding sasuke and naruto he wasnt being serious because we both know that if sakura was to engage in battle with either of them even at that time she would lose.
tsunade didnt even say anything to make it seem like she was a prodigy she said i havent seen such talent since shizune. That doesnt make her a genius. who was her previous pupil.
So any acknowledgement of talent is worthless unless the one giving the compliment uses the words "the most amazing thing ever" to describe the person.
Sakura by feats and statements is more of a prodigy than anyone her age barring those two. She is the second best medic in the world and shes 17 tops. Humor me and say that does not mean she is a prodigy.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
So any acknowledgement of talent is worthless unless the one giving the compliment uses the words "the most amazing thing ever" to describe the person.Sakura by feats and statements is more of a prodigy than anyone her age barring those two. She is the second best medic in the world and shes 17 tops. Humor me and say that does not mean she is a prodigy.
i started this thread and was talking about GENIN. as a genin sakura was nothing extraordinary. she was not a considered a genius within he class. Its just fact Sakura when she was a genin was not gonna beat any of the other higher tier noteworthy genin. hell even kiba and choji could have beaten her at that time.
just because you werent considered a prodigy as a child doesnt mean that you arent going to grow into a ninja worth recognition tho. she did grow into a noteworthy ninja but that doesnt mean she her peers considered as a prodigy/genius when she was younger.
seriously all she could do back then is walk on water and stick to trees eaier than her opponents. She didnt even start training medical jutsu until the end of part 1.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
But everything that allows Sakura to be as strong as she is, i.e her chakra control, she had as a genin and it exceeded even Sasuke. What makes Part 1 Sakura so weak is because no one has trained her in anything remotely special. Would Lee be a genius if Guy hadn't taken an interest in the kid?
i know what made her weak was a lack of guidance but that doesnt matter because it doesnt change the fact that she wasnt considered a genius/prodigy during her time as a genin. like i said she excelled in one aspect and paled in comparison to others greatly in everything else. she wasnt going to win in a fight against any of the other geniuses
just because she was better than sasuke at chakra contol doesnt mean sasuke would ever lose to her. she was in no way ever better than sasuke as a ninja
Now as she grew in ranks that is when she started to shine.
this whole thread is about who were the genius genin/prodigal genin. Sakura does not fit that mold.
Originally posted by yungz22
i started this thread and was talking about GENIN. as a genin sakura was nothing extraordinary. she was not a considered a genius within he class. Its just fact Sakura when she was a genin was not gonna beat any of the other higher tier noteworthy genin. hell even kiba and choji could have beaten her at that time.just because you werent considered a prodigy as a child doesnt mean that you arent going to grow into a ninja worth recognition tho. she did grow into a noteworthy ninja but that doesnt mean she her peers considered as a prodigy/genius when she was younger.
seriously all she could do back then is walk on water and stick to trees eaier than her opponents. She didnt even start training medical jutsu until the end of part 1.
You said "former genin", and you asked everyone who they thought were genii, not who was considered to be a genius in Naruto-verse by their peers and teachers.
So based on that, Sakura is a genius/prodigy. The mere fact that she's a better medic nin than Chiyo with only 3 years of training testifies to that.
And unlike most of her peers, she doesn't have a Kekkei Genkai, or abnormally large amounts of special chakra.
Lee & Shikamaru are the only ninjas who are comparable, and Lee was taught to use the Gates from a young age.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
You said "former genin", and you asked everyone who they thought were genii, not who was considered to be a genius in Naruto-verse by their peers and teachers.So based on that, Sakura is a genius/prodigy. The mere fact that she's a better medic nin than Chiyo with only 3 years of training testifies to that.
And unlike most of her peers, she doesn't have a Kekkei Genkai, or abnormally large amounts of special chakra.
Lee & Shikamaru are the only ninjas who are comparable, and Lee was taught to use the Gates from a young age.
Im not disagreeing that she didnt grow to be an exceptional ninja but at the end of the day as a genin she wasnt seen as special
Some flowers take longer to bloom than others
Again, just because it's written in that Sakura or whoever else learns so and so for so and so amount of time means next to nothing in my book. To be worthy of the title of genius isn't very hard to come by in the Naruto universe according to a lot of the posts here.
Are we really considering Sakura and Naruto geniuses? Sakura is the opposite of a quick thinker and Naruto is horrendous strategist when forced to work in a team. He mostly comes through because of having the battle weighted toward him for being the main villain + having Nine Tails. Otherwise, he would be the first to die in every battle.
Leave the genius terms to characters who deserve it, like Shikamaru, Kakashi and Itachi. Dare I say it, Guy is far more intelligent than those fools Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura
Originally posted by therapist1
Again, just because it's written in that Sakura or whoever else learns so and so for so and so amount of time means next to nothing in my book. To be worthy of the title of genius isn't very hard to come by in the Naruto universe according to a lot of the posts here.Are we really considering Sakura and Naruto geniuses? Sakura is the opposite of a quick thinker and Naruto is horrendous strategist when forced to work in a team. He mostly comes through because of having the battle weighted toward him for being the main villain + having Nine Tails. Otherwise, he would be the first to die in every battle.
Leave the genius terms to characters who deserve it, like Shikamaru, Kakashi and Itachi. Dare I say it, Guy is far more intelligent than those fools Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura
In naruto world the word genius works synonymously with prodigy.
Of the konoha 11
Naruto
Lee
Sasuke
Neji
Shino
Shikamaru
All did things that were prodigous for their age and rank as ninja in the naruto world.
Originally posted by chasedown
In naruto world the word genius works synonymously with prodigy.Of the konoha 11
Naruto
Lee
Sasuke
Neji
Shino
Shikamaru
All did things that were prodigous for their age and rank as ninja in the naruto world.
Ah, okay. I apologize. That, I can agree with.
I do wish we could add some girls to that list 🙁. Naruto as a show is such a great idea but falls short on the girls.
Originally posted by chasedown
Im not disagreeing that she didnt grow to be an exceptional ninja but at the end of the day as a genin she wasnt seen as special
Some flowers take longer to bloom than others
Part 2 Sakura is still an adolescent.
Shikamaru wasn't seen by most as special either, until right before he became a chuunin at least. The same goes for Shino, who I have no clue as to why you've listed him as a prodigy. Even in-universe, he isn't considered a genius in any way, even though he's a fairly good tactician.
Yet you've listed them as prodigies.
Originally posted by chasedown
In naruto world the word genius works synonymously with prodigy.Of the konoha 11
Naruto
Lee
Sasuke
Neji
Shino
Shikamaru
All did things that were prodigous for their age and rank as ninja in the naruto world.
Since we're apparently looking at the rookie 9 as genins, what did Shikamaru do as a genin that made him a prodigy?
The first test of the Chuunin exams actually implies that Sakura is more intelligent than Shikamaru who himself has a 200+ IQ (lol).
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Exceptional genin =/= prodigies.So, what did Shikamaru and Shino do as genins that made them prodigious?
Wait when was it said that sakura was smarter than shika?
Shikamaru was praised by kakashi who was a genius himself saying something along the lines of shika being as smart as him.
He outsmarted 9 sound ninja by himself
Thought of over 100 steps ahead of temari
Impressed the hokage and was the only one to become a chunnin
Even asuma said he could be hokage if he was t lazy
Shino was kind of overshadowed but his strength was always hinted as extraordinary. Even in his fights against kankoro and zaku.
And like i said shika wanted shino on his team after choji because of his strength but he wasnt in the village at the time.
So your only a prodigy if everyone goes crazy over you? Well that seems a bit unfair.
Well in terms of actual accomplishment Sakura would definitely fit the bill for prodigy. Just because nobody prior to Tsunade could unlock Sakura's potential doesn't make her any less of one. Besides wasn't she regarded as one of the smartest students way back in ninja school? Also there's the whole thing with Sakura going from being completely unimpressive to having better destruction feat that Tsunade on top of beinga better medical nin than Chiyo in the span of 3 years.
Heck Naruto pre-skip could've been regarded as genius to a certain extent: dude did summon Gamabunta, mastered Rasengan in less than a week, and learned how to make Shadow clones in a few hours.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
So your only a prodigy if everyone goes crazy over you? Well that seems a bit unfair.Well in terms of actual accomplishment Sakura would definitely fit the bill for prodigy. Just because nobody prior to Tsunade could unlock Sakura's potential doesn't make her any less of one. Besides wasn't she regarded as one of the smartest students way back in ninja school? Also there's the whole thing with Sakura going from being completely unimpressive to having better destruction feat that Tsunade on top of beinga better medical nin than Chiyo in the span of 3 years.
Heck Naruto pre-skip could've been regarded as genius to a certain extent: dude did summon Gamabunta, mastered Rasengan in less than a week, and learned how to make Shadow clones in a few hours.
Not that academia holds too much weight, but I thought it was Into who was a top scoring student.
I find all the accomplishments we can list to be unconvincing. I believe. It is simply a result of inconsistent writing and the creator throwing in random powers for the main characters because they were due to know it. There is nothing about their personalities or actions that suggest they may be so much more talented than the other ninjas, except for maybe Naruto's "never giving up" mentality and ridiculous amount of chakras.
Whenever I think of Sakura in battle, I remember when like three different people had to save her while she literally sat on the ground and gave commentary. I think she fought with at some poi t and started biting the enemy while getting pummeled. It was so painful to watch that I have no idea of her abilities in Shippuden other than that she is stronger.
Still yet, even if she is a prodigy, the decision she makes to kill Sasuke and offer her services to him as soon as she sees him negates EVERYTHING that could have been redeeming. I cannot care for characters who are shown to be talented but waste themselves on either lost causes or dumb goals. I just can't take prodigious dummies seriously
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Exceptional genin =/= prodigies.So, what did Shikamaru and Shino do as genins that made them prodigious?
Shino has kind of been oversshadowed but weve seen glimpses of his strength in both of his fights and hes his strength was also hinted because he was sent when shika said he was one of the first ppl he thought of to bring with him on the sasuke retrieval mission