Israeli Bombing raids, over the top?

Originally posted by Robtard
Because they don't have the capabilities to do so, if Iran where to arm them with modern armaments, they'd use them without restraint.

The reason Israeli strikes kill so many civilians is because Hamas, Hizbullah and the like make sure they have no choice but to kill civilians while targeting the threats.

Here's a scenario: What if Israel when back to the 1940's land-scale, it gave up whatever land it had captured in subsequent wars and withdrew into itself. Do you think the suicide bombings and attacks would stop, or would those radical Islamic groups still stay true to their cause of wiping her off the map?

1) I don't see how that makes it better.

2) I still feel the blame is on both sides. The Hamas does try to disguise themselves as civilians, but that's understandable, as they'd otherwise be dead immediately...and it's not like Hamas starts everything and Israel are just the poor, reacting good guys...they stir their own amount of shit.

[edit] I don't know, I believe the problem is big because of the different Religion Israel has to the others in the Region, so there would be a problem...would it be as bad as it is now, i.e. would there be as much suffering, not sure...maybe not...anything could have happened there, really.

Originally posted by Bardock42
1) I don't see how that makes it better.

2) I still feel the blame is on both sides. The Hamas does try to disguise themselves as civilians, but that's understandable, as they'd otherwise be dead immediately...and it's not like Hamas starts everything and Israel are just the poor, reacting good guys...they stir their own amount of shit.

[edit] I don't know, I believe the problem is big because of the different Religion Israel has to the others in the Region, so there would be a problem...would it be as bad as it is now, i.e. would there be as much suffering, not sure...maybe not...anything could have happened there, really.

Because the consensus seems to be that Israel is the bastard for being the better armed combatant. When the flip-side is, if Israel's enemies where to become the better armed combatants, they wipe her off the map, if they could. While Israel hasn't done the same to her enemies, despite having the power/ability to do so.

I generally agree with you, though Israel seems to leave alone when left alone, more often than not.

To your edit. Religion is obviously an aspect of it, though Muslims do fight among themselves as, Shiite vs Sunni and whatnot, as an example.

I think there is only one solution. Force all inhabitants of the Holy Land to convert to Catholicism.

Or get the whole world to become atheistic agnostics, that way there wouldn´t be any arguments about stuff.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Or get the whole world to become atheistic agnostics, that way there wouldn´t be any arguments about stuff.

Any fundamentalist muslim that would support the live slaughter of a human being deserves what they get. If Hamas wants to house their "Rocket Launchers" with civilian families, then I guess innocent women and children will die. Anti Semitism is the only form of racism that is still openly endorsed in today's world, as is apparent by the overseas media coverage of this conflict, and PussyFrance's response.
To quote a wise man, ""If somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that."

So, Isreal's conducting a ground operation in the Gaza strip, right now. Opinions? 🙂

They should stop, and allow France to conduct peaceful negotiations whild they get bombarded by rockets. It's the civilized thing to do.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I think there is only one solution. Force all inhabitants of the Holy Land to convert to Catholicism.

Agreed, should really add, "convert or be molested", though.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
So, Isreal's conducting a ground operation in the Gaza strip, right now. Opinions? 🙂

Whats the official purpose? If it's to go in and kill Hamas, good for them. Funny thing, the media will bash them for it too.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
So, Isreal's conducting a ground operation in the Gaza strip, right now. Opinions? 🙂

Urban warfare and both sides have been preparing for years for a day like this...I'm calling it now...Hamas is gonna a serious ass-whooping if they don't back down.

Originally posted by tsscls
Any fundamentalist muslim that would support the live slaughter of a human being deserves what they get. If Hamas wants to house their "Rocket Launchers" with civilian families, then I guess innocent women and children will die. Anti Semitism is the only form of racism that is still openly endorsed in today's world, as is apparent by the overseas media coverage of this conflict, and PussyFrance's response.
To quote a wise man, ""If somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that."

Israel uses "antisemitism" to hide behind so they can take back what they think, in their arrogance, is their land promised by Yah-Weh. This is Fact. It has been stated by Israeli leadership. Palestine fights with what they have which is nothing. In the American Revolution we were called terrorist because we hid behind trees and shot British Officers. Its the same. Israel gets to destroy with no repercussion. Yet Palestine is Villainized for using what they can to defend their Country. Israel deserves nothing. The have not been a Nation in 2000 years. In 1947 The Allied forces partitioned the Arab Nations and Gave a chunk to the "Displaced" Jews. It kills me , Israelis are not a race of people that are hated, Jews are People who practice Judaism. It is completely a religious problem . The Israelis think the land is owed to them and will stop at nothing to get it back.

it is actually. they had it first. :/ its been theirs since BC.

Yeah, but you know, property rights do cease after a while. I think 1800 years is the standard ...and the Jews just missed it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, but you know, property rights do cease after a while. I think 1800 years is the standard ...and the Jews just missed it.

AMEN LOL

and it was CANAANITE , And Moabites , Elamites and Amelikites Before Joshua the Jew Conquered it so, in reality, It was ARAB 1st LOL

hilarious......

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
and it was CANAANITE , And Moabites

Whcih both are Semitic in ethnicity, so...unless you want to say that the Jews/Hebrews aren't semitic, don't usee those cultures as an argument.

, Elamites

They were in Iran, not Israel so they're irrelevant.

and Amelikites Before Joshua the Jew Conquered it so, in reality, It was ARAB 1st LOL

And, finally, the Amelkites were in the Roman province of Arabia, not Judea, so again, irrelevant.

abraham isaac and jacob, all of the jewish forefathers lived in israel. The non-jew races are descendants of abraham's bastard son.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Israel uses "antisemitism" to hide behind so they can take back what they think, in their arrogance, is their land promised by Yah-Weh. This is Fact. It has been stated by Israeli leadership. Palestine fights with what they have which is nothing. In the American Revolution we were called terrorist because we hid behind trees and shot British Officers. Its the same. Israel gets to destroy with no repercussion. Yet Palestine is Villainized for using what they can to defend their Country. Israel deserves nothing. The have not been a Nation in 2000 years. In 1947 The Allied forces partitioned the Arab Nations and Gave a chunk to the "Displaced" Jews. It kills me , Israelis are not a race of people that are hated, Jews are People who practice Judaism. It is completely a religious problem . The Israelis think the land is owed to them and will stop at nothing to get it back.

Just go on and say "I hate Jews", it'll save you a lot of senseless typing.

Curious, what do you think the Palestians think of the land?