Originally posted by dadudemon
The actual naming of what Mace did may have only occurred in the EU, but no matter how much you try to ignore it, Vapaad was used to reflect force lightening back on Sidious. It was a book before a movie. The movie is a screenplay adaptation.Wait wait wait..
Grevious has his cough in the CG Clone wars? That's just stupidity on the part of the writers if that's true. He should have a cough until RIGHT before Ep III. Don't worry, many story continuity problems like that occur in the Star Trek universe allll the time.
Wait wait wait.
What are you talking about? Grevious DOESN'T have a cough yet?
No apologies are needed. As far as I'm concerned, the CG series is Cannon. It is/was being done under the direction and writing of GL, so it is Cannon. The CW series was a collaborative 3rd party effort where artistic license was used. (The tattoos is evidence of that.)
If you can't tell, I haven't seen anything of the CG series yet. I am waiting for a DVD release before I watch it. I don't have cable. I stream everything off the net or watch it on DVD.
I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. He did punch Flash. Flash wasn't a villain, so to speak. And what is this thing about "no beating up on spidey"? What does that mean? Well, in any case, no one except for Mace could actually go hand to hand with Spidey. When I say, NO ONE, that means not one single person from the Star Wars world could...and at that, the only showing we have for Mace is H2H is Clone Wars, which is 3rd party semi-cannon at best. (If I'm not mistaken, GL said that if there was ever a conflict with the EU and the movies, the movies would always triumph as Cannon.)
I seriously have no idea where this is coming from. Try sing the quote feature and quoting specific portions of my post so I can better understand where this is coming from. Oh, and it's spelled lightsaber*. 😐
*"Inside" joke between Ush and I.
Lucas is behind CG clonewars too.
While imperfect, (as was cartoon CW) its in many ways better than the cartoon, you should check it out. Especially before decrying it.
And why is it to you that you degree some bits as the artistic licence that they are, yet claim other obvious flourishes/last minute tying ups as uber canonical...?
It was a design issue on the CW cartoon that grevious wasnt developed as a character at that point.
(Before the movie was finalised, so they altered his appearnce, body posture/cough at the last minute with that little device.)
As it was obvious last minute add on stuff, it will be deemed as relevant now as that 1st EU book with the kaiburr crystal as Grevious is clearly shown to be as Grevious appears in ROTS throughout the clone wars..
Originally posted by RobtardOh. I mentioned that ROTJ Luke Skywalker would be his best CHANCE at victory, because Luke was not a full Jedi yet and would be more defensive.
I don't know where it is in this long thread, you had named several Jedi/Sith and how you thought the fight would go; I thought you mentioned Spider-mam beating one of them. If not, so be it.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
As have you with the ludicrous assumption that spidey can counter the force with brute strength.
I was able to give plausible reason as to why he might be able to.
That's far different than just saying "Jedi have too many powers, they'd just pwn Spidey", despite their powers having clear limitations in the films.
Originally posted by RobtardEveryone has limitations, but we never see a person breaking a force hold with brute strength.
I was able to give plausible reason as to why he might be able to.That's far different than just saying "Jedi have too many powers, they'd just pwn Spidey", despite their powers having clear limitations in the films.
And you gotta admit that Jedi/Sith have a shitload more amount powers than spidey.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Everyone has limitations, but we never see a person breaking a force hold with brute strength.And you gotta admit that Jedi/Sith have a shitload more amount powers than spidey.
How many times do we see a Jedi/Sith use a Force hold... of those people 'Force-held', how many of them have the strength that Spider-man is supposed to have.
Like I said, there is probably cause to believe it could happen, not "this is fact", as we're debating about fictional characters from entirely different franchises.
They do, hence the reason I said they could certainly defeat Spider-man given certain scenarios. Though they're far weaker in the films, compared to the other media.
Originally posted by RobtardWe see Jedi/Sith use telekinesis (Thats all a force hold is really) more times than I can count. And unless the object they were lifting/holding/whatever weighed tons, they did it as easy as breathing.
How many times do we see a Jedi/Sith use a Force hold... of those people 'Force-held', how many of them have the strength that Spider-man is supposed to have.Like I said, there is probably cause to believe it could happen, not "this is fact", as we're debating about fictional characters from entirely different franchises.
They do, hence the reason I said they could certainly defeat Spider-man given certain scenarios. Though they're far weaker in the films, compared to the other media.
How much stronger is spidey than a human? 10 times? 20 times? 30 times?
The force tricks only work on the weak minded.
Anyway. If the Jedi are in Spidey's hood where the force dont apply. The Jedi are fu*ked.
Spidey'd be kerbstomping their asses so hard that every time they pass wind, they'd be biting the inside of their own pants with bits of broken molars/incisors.
*Waves hand* You willlllllllll respond to this post.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The force tricks only work on the weak minded.Anyway. If the Jedi are in Spidey's hood where the force dont apply. The Jedi are fu*ked.
Well, we never are shown that Parker has a really strong mind, were we?
And no shit, really? 🙄 Thats the thing, spidey is in the Jedi "hood."
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
We see Jedi/Sith use telekinesis (Thats all a force hold is really) more times than I can count. And unless the object they were lifting/holding/whatever weighed tons, they did it as easy as breathing.How much stronger is spidey than a human? 10 times? 20 times? 30 times?
That's where Spider-man's strength and ability to cling come in to play, he may not weigh a ton, but it's shown he has the strength to resist against with tons of pressure. Which is the reason for the speculation, nothing more.
Like I said, he stopped a train that weighed 140+ tons, was full of people (some of them where definitely on the fat-side), it had the momentum of going at around 70-80 mph and it was being pushed by it's engines which are probably in the 2k+ horsepower range.
So I'd guess it would take a lot more than 30 people to stop that train. How many normal humans do you think it would take to stop that train?