Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Sideous died in RotJ because he was old and stunned. Plus his arms were at an angle where he couldn't hit Vader right anyway. It was just an instance of happen-stance.
You mean he needs his hands at exactly the right angle to attack? All he had to do was not keep them facing upwards, he's old, but come on.
Couldn't he just have Force-choked Vader's dying ass, Force-held him, Force-anything-I-can-think-up-at-the-moment-because-I-ran-my-logic-into-a-corner? (not directed at you)
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Because he was being electrocuted? He's ****ing Luke "I'm almost omnipotent!" Skywalker. A normal person would just die right away under Palps lightning, Spidey would take a little longer, but he'd be dead meat nonetheless.
No Vader, Palpatine couldn't stop a dying Vader from tossing his ass into the pit-o-despair, despite being "Satan".
Also, where in ROTJ does it say Luke has reached this state of cosmic uberness?
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Like I said, Luke could have been subconsciously doing it. Unconscious Force useage would explain a hell of a lot of the inconsistencies.
He could have subconciously through the force destroyed the emporer.
Also he might have changed my burger to a burgerking burger.
But he didnt. 😮💨
Originally posted by Robtard
[B]You mean he needs his hands at exactly the right angle to attack? All he had to do was not keep them facing upwards, he's old, but come on.
I honestly don't know. When Vader grabbed him he looked like he was either in immense pain, or orgasming. So yeah. Maybe Vader was doing something else to him? Dunno.
Originally posted by RobtardThrough logic alone. The comics show Vader effortlessly murdering dozens of Jedi all by himself. That fact that Luke can take him while being drastically undertrained says something.
No Vader, Palpatine couldn't stop a dying Vader from tossing his ass into the pit-o-despair, despite being "Satan".Also, where in ROTJ does it say Luke has reached this state of cosmic uberness?
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
EU is canon unless it contradicts the novelizations or movies. GL said himself that Luke is Anakin at his full potential, which means the Anakin rarely strived for his potential. Luke is twice as powerful as the Emperor, who is smarter then Anakin and better then Yoda.
Anakin didn't strive to be the best? Could have fooled me from what is seen in ep:2-3.
Yet Luke couldn't take out Palpatine? I understand that the EU goes on to portray Luke as the greatest Force-user in the galaxy, after the events of ROTJ though.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Through logic alone. The comics show Vader effortlessly murdering dozens of Jedi all by himself. That fact that Luke can take him while being drastically undertrained says something.
Comics now. Dude, you're bringing in all and any media to prove whichever point you're trying to make and disregarding the discrepancies, don't you think it's just a bit silly?
Also, isn't Vader in the life-support suit far weaker than Anakin-Vader according to GL? Which would make him far, far weaker than Palpatine?
Anakin got cocky. It's sort of like how Dr Doom allows himself to be defeated. He thinks he's so above everyone that it lets others beat him. Remember, he was still a young punk in ROTS. Luke couldn't take Palpatine while undertrained, but he managed to hold him off for seven years.
The comics are canon as well
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Anakin got cocky. It's sort of like how Dr Doom allows himself to be defeated. He thinks he's so above everyone that it lets others beat him. Remember, he was still a young punk in ROTS. Luke couldn't take Palpatine while undertrained, but he managed to hold him off for seven years.The comics are canon as well
Well, it's not canon on KMC. So...
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
EU is canon unless it contradicts the novelizations or movies. GL said himself that Luke is Anakin at his full potential, which means the Anakin rarely strived for his potential. Luke is twice as powerful as the Emperor, who is smarter then Anakin and better then Yoda.
Yes I know the interview.
He meant "The potential to make the right choices".
GL was saying that Anakin and Luke have all the same challenges, but Anakin f**ks up on his choices, yet Luke makes the right ones.
That was the context.
If Luke was even half what Anakin was in ROTS he'd have killed the Emporer, ripping his head off, shat down his neck and ate his still beating heart.