Originally posted by kevdudeNot like it did in dotng on virtually everyone it came into contact with. In dotng it didn't matter if you were crazy it still worked on you. I don't think it would work on Thanos because he is wired differently and is referred to as the mad titan.
So it didn't work on 3 people who was wired different and the few who was protected by its opposite.. Looks like it worked to me. 😱
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not like it did in dotng on virtually everyone it came into contact with. In dotng it didn't matter if you were crazy it still worked on you. I don't think it would work on Thanos because he is wired differently and is referred to as the mad titan.
It didn't work on the Forever People as they was following the command of a high power.
Originally posted by AllanklesMaster over all existence:
Since - unlike you - I hate to rehash old arguments I'll tackle this part of your post, since you seem to want to pick and choose bits of statements as you please and ignore the overwhelming context that accompanies said snipets.The ALE is an equation nothing more, a truth that proves Darkseid is Master, that he is the one God.
Originally posted by AllanklesPure unsupported garbage. Show me any proof that ALE can only affect sentient life. Because we all know you keep ignoring when the ALE affected time, space and the physical world:
Now to the inanimate matter and energy that make up space in all the universe, this truth is irrelevant. Inanimate matter and energy cannot process this truth to be affected by it.The ALE is important to Darkseid because he has always been consumed by life and the image of life. Only life can be affected by the ALE, only life can be convinced by the mathematical proof ingrained in the ALE.
This proof (like all proofs) can only be processed and perceived by sentient life.
Originally posted by AllanklesThe breaking of the concept of free will is EXACTLY what we have seen before. That is a mere facet of the unimaginable whole that is the complete ALE. Keep ignoring what Grant Morriosn says. Keep ignoring what the characters say. Keep ignoring what's on-panel. That's trolling. Pure and simple.
To Morrison it is the E=mc2 of despair. What is despair to a rock or an inanimate object? The proof is only significant to sentient life.As a an abstract weapon that attacks and disproves the very concept of free will, the contents of the equation of which we as humans/mortals perceive barely scratches the surface of the unimaginable depths that is the nature of such a thing.
It is abstract: something that breaks the very concept of free will, such a thing is unimaginable by the perceptions of the material world.
The war in heaven and Darkseid's fall is precipitated by DS' mastery of the ALE. As stated by Grant Morrison himself. Only facets of the unimaginable whole that is the complete ALE has been seen up until now? Stated by GM himself. A New God, Orion, manifests and does not cause Multiversal upheaval. On-panel. The ALE cracks time and space. On-panel. The ALE is mathematical proof that DS is master of all existence. On-panel. Cain commands Spectre to unmake creation and rebuild the world by speaking the ALE. On-panel. Creation is not just humanity/free will since creation came before. On-panel. Spectre unmakes creation and rebuilds the world. On-panel. Spectre, using the Spectreforce undoes all the damage he wrought by restoring people's free will, fixing the skies and the lightning, unchurning the seas and undoing the fires of destruction. On-panel. Darkseid literally subsumes the existence of people unto him, such that they are him. On-panel. The only body that houses his actual spirit is Turpin's. On-panel. The fact that people's existence becomes him, which is a logical derivative of all existence becoming him? Pure common sense. One wish of the Miracle Machine that calculates the LE is capable of rewriting laws of physics and fixes the Multiverse? On-panel. ALE started everything in Final Crisis? Stated by GM himself. Darkseid's own exhortations that he himself is god? Debunked by GM himself.
ALE is only mind control? Myth busted. Orion boomtubed in? Unsupported speculative nonsense. ALE doesn't affect any physical change on existence? Myth busted. Creation = humanity? Purple prose garbage. Rebuild the world = enslave humanity? Purple prose garbage. Lightning crashing and seas churning = Spectre's power? Equivocative nonsense. Fires of destruction = arsonists or retrofitted hellborers? Retarded monkey spit. Darkseid subsuming the existence of people is only a result of enslaving free will? Utter nonsense. Darkseid's spirit is housed in each individual? Unnecessary speculation. Two wishes of the Miracle Machine don't fix anything but only bottle a universe, even though Earth-0 is subsumed into the singularity, Earth-0's population is shunted to Earth-51 and only the Watchtower is left? Utter misreading. Darkseid does everything in Final Crisis under his own power? Fanboy wetdream. Darkseid's own exhortations are the literal truth? Myth busted by the author himself.
Nuff said? Nuff said.
^ Wonder where I get all my own scans... facepalm
Name me a page or panel from any issue and I'll scan it for you. @$^% it. Y'know what? Anybody else other than you can ask me that.
Because the phail of your sockitude may not have reached moderators, but as you've not actually been capable of setting forth a single argument even worthy of rebuttal in any of the threads you've trolled on, it really doesn't matter for me to see any of your posts anyway. Welcome to ignore.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Wonder where I get all my own scans... facepalmName me a page or panel from any issue and I'll scan it for you. @$^% it. Y'know what? Anybody else other than you can ask me that.
Because the phail of your sockitude may not have reached moderators, but as you've not actually been capable of setting forth a single argument even worthy of rebuttal in any of the threads you've trolled on, it really doesn't matter for me to see any of your posts anyway. Welcome to ignore.
Nice thing you stayed on topic because u seriously lost me a couple senetences ago. What have you said that already hasn't been deunked. You have a perspective on the whole FC situation that is clearly not supported by anything that occured on-panel, and when ur caught and called on it u go right for personal attacks that are completly irrelevent from the topic. Next time you make a argument try to stop after you have been prove wrong.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Master over all existence:
Pure unsupported garbage. Show me any proof that ALE can only affect sentient life. Because we all know you keep ignoring when the ALE affected time, space and the physical world:
The breaking of the concept of free will is EXACTLY what we have seen before. That is a mere facet of the unimaginable whole that is the complete ALE. Keep ignoring what Grant Morriosn says. Keep ignoring what the characters say. Keep ignoring what's on-panel. That's trolling. Pure and simple.The war in heaven and Darkseid's fall is precipitated by DS' mastery of the ALE. As stated by Grant Morrison himself. Only facets of the unimaginable whole that is the complete ALE has been seen up until now? Stated by GM himself. A New God, Orion, manifests and does not cause Multiversal upheaval. On-panel. The ALE cracks time and space. On-panel. The ALE is mathematical proof that DS is master of all existence. On-panel. Cain commands Spectre to unmake creation and rebuild the world by speaking the ALE. On-panel. Creation is not just humanity/free will since creation came before. On-panel. Spectre unmakes creation and rebuilds the world. On-panel. Spectre, using the Spectreforce undoes all the damage he wrought by restoring people's free will, fixing the skies and the lightning, unchurning the seas and undoing the fires of destruction. On-panel. Darkseid literally subsumes the existence of people unto him, such that they are him. On-panel. The only body that houses his actual spirit is Turpin's. On-panel. The fact that people's existence becomes him, which is a logical derivative of all existence becoming him? Pure common sense. One wish of the Miracle Machine that calculates the LE is capable of rewriting laws of physics and fixes the Multiverse? On-panel. ALE started everything in Final Crisis? Stated by GM himself. Darkseid's own exhortations that he himself is god? Debunked by GM himself.
ALE is only mind control? Myth busted. Orion boomtubed in? Unsupported speculative nonsense. ALE doesn't affect any physical change on existence? Myth busted. Creation = humanity? Purple prose garbage. Rebuild the world = enslave humanity? Purple prose garbage. Lightning crashing and seas churning = Spectre's power? Equivocative nonsense. Fires of destruction = arsonists or retrofitted hellborers? Retarded monkey spit. Darkseid subsuming the existence of people is only a result of enslaving free will? Utter nonsense. Darkseid's spirit is housed in each individual? Unnecessary speculation. Two wishes of the Miracle Machine don't fix anything but only bottle a universe, even though Earth-0 is subsumed into the singularity, Earth-0's population is shunted to Earth-51 and only the Watchtower is left? Utter misreading. Darkseid does everything in Final Crisis under his own power? Fanboy wetdream. Darkseid's own exhortations are the literal truth? Myth busted by the author himself.
Nuff said? Nuff said.
Finally finished reading through all these arguments(second most interesting ones after Mr Master,GS debates) and really i must applaud u.👆
