What if the Empire invaded modern day earth?

Started by Gideon53 pages
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Borbarad keeps on referencing physics so I guess (according to him) that is a credible source for this, right? So the force is obviously physically impossible. Heck, Vader is impossible; how to you get born wo/a father?? So the stormtroopers will be leaderless and then will get disorganized and will fight over control...

Obviously, for the sake of the versus match, Vader gets to use the Force and clearly must exist.

And don't reference "born w/o father." You'll have Christians kicking the shit out of you before your next post.

Originally posted by Gideon
Obviously, for the sake of the versus match, Vader gets to use the Force and clearly must exist.

And don't reference "born w/o father." You'll have Christians kicking the shit out of you before your next post.

I'm not a Christian so don't be angry if I'm wrong, but isn't Jesus's father God? Vader on the other hand has NO father at all.

And what I'm trying to say is that physics other than very basic ones can't be mentioned in a universe with magical superhumans that can move objects.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Borbarad keeps on referencing physics so I guess (according to him) that is a credible source for this, right? So the force is obviously physically impossible. Heck, Vader is impossible; how to you get born wo/a father?? So the stormtroopers will be leaderless and then will get disorganized and will fight over control...

Then most of the stormtroopers will be gone too. A lot of them were clones, and cloning that perfect on such a scale is impossible.

Earth and physics FTW !

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
I'm not a Christian so don't be angry if I'm wrong, but isn't Jesus's father God?

You're not a Christian? Yikes. Forget the trajectory of your immortal soul, but KMC is definitely a puritan state. We destroy nonbelievers!

Kidding.

Maybe.

Vader on the other hand has NO father at all.

Vader's father is the Force (or indirectly Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious [gay couple?]). As in the case with Christ, God didn't manifest human form and bang the shit out of Mary. He just arranged it to be so.

And what I'm trying to say is that physics other than very basic ones can't be mentioned in a universe with magical superhumans that can move objects.

Physics still apply to the non superhumans.

Back on topic:

An Abrams can take out an AT ST (a catapult almost made is stumble AND THAT WASN'T PIS BECAUSE IT DIDN'T CHANGE THE PLOT IN ANY WAY AND WAS JUST AN INSIGNIFICANT SCENE but that doesn't make it any less credible).

3 soldiers (we'll HEAVILY outnumber them) can shoot a stormtrooper and "knock him down" and then charge at him, tackle him to the ground, pin his arms/take his weapon, take off his helmet and then shoot him.

Their AA guns are the same ones used by the CIS in Battlefront 2 Grevious mission (where you have to beatl Grevious).

There's only 50 of the AA, so yeah swarm them with several hundred bombers and watch the fireworks.

AT ATs can be distracted by jets (they can barely hit snowspeeders that go way slower) and then just tie a big rope around them. Or, air drop a squad on top of them and shoot the drivers 🙂

Ben beat a space-ship with a rock. awermm

Just throwin' that in there for all the people going with the "Advanced tech is haxorzz!!!1!!!duroll

And about PIS, if the stormtroopers not hitting guys right in front of them is PIS, then the stormtroopers are afftected by PIS 90% of the time they fight.

I had two-thirds of a rebuttal for you Nai, but I decided a prolonged argument wasn't worth the effort. You aren't going to acknowledge my argument regarding the [im]plausibility of applying real-world science to a universe as completely nonsensical as the SWU, your arguments regarding Vader [mind-controlling world leaders, fending off nukes, surviving all at once] are absurd on a level that hurts my brain, and you're apparently already getting worked up.

Not to mention that this thread has been ridiculous from the start. Half a million stormtroopers and a few hundred units armor [most of which can be crushed by swinging logs] would get obliterated, especially since the thread starter has stacked the odds as far as intel, air support, and resources go.

Careful. Janus may revoke your membership.

Originally posted by Eminence
I had two-thirds of a rebuttal for you Nai, but I decided a prolonged argument wasn't worth the effort. You aren't going to acknowledge my argument regarding the [im]plausibility of applying real-world science to a universe as completely nonsensical as the SWU, your arguments regarding Vader [mind-controlling world leaders, fending off nukes, surviving all at once] are absurd on a level that hurts my brain, and you're apparently already getting worked up.

Not to mention that this thread has been ridiculous from the start. Half a million stormtroopers and a few hundred units armor [most of which can be crushed by swinging logs] would get obliterated, especially since the thread starter has stacked the odds as far as intel, air support, and resources go.

If this is a spite, then why do 8 people think that the empire will win? Technically, the Empire has far superior tech, but sometimes that's just no true.

Another thing to point out is that you rarely see the Empire using stuff like smart bombs and such. In fact, Star Wars weapons/battles just look "cheesy" in comparison.

And oh yeah, I forgot about the swinging logs part. Makes AT-STs even more ridiculous.

BTW, who's Nai?

Borbarad.

Originally posted by Gideon
Careful. Janus may revoke your membership.

He still lives ?

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
He still lives ?

Far from these lands. In a world where trolling is commonplace and logic is MIA.

Originally posted by Gideon
Bombarad.
Fixed. Truculent sends his regards.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Ever played Galactic Battlegrounds? One of my first SW games.
Game mechanics aside, the events in the campaign are part of the continuity, but it's a 2001 RTS, so the depth of field isn't exactly the most accurate. Still though, Antes Beladar wasn't present when he was choked.

Then why doesn't Vader just choke all of the rebel leaders?

Originally posted by Borbarad
You don't have to try being a dick because you simply don't know what you're talkinga bout. Those figures are extremely generous estimations dirived from the interpretation of things shown on screen and the man is - canonically - absolutely right when it comes to his turbolaser commentaries (the energy output of the Executor he came up with happens to be cannon figure now which can be found in sourcebooks). Yeah...he must be completely wrong, despite the fact that every bit of evidence available supports his claims and despite the fact that LFL apparently ninjas some figures he had come up with. Despite of that, he somehow sucks as source...

@Faunus:

Oh excuse me. How damn hard is it to change the direction of a weapon with a ballistic movement. Apparently you haven't got the point. The missle fired at Yoda was speed up in a straight line from the orbit down to the planets' surface with such speed that even Yoda could just move it's actual impact point a kilometre away from the original one. If you slightly alter the direction of a missle aimed at you in a ballistic fashion, the result can be more devastating. Notice how Yoda had problems with the speed of the thing and not with it's raw weight.

You could point that out, and then you would be called off by me for not paying attention. The hand-helt blaster rifles obviously don't generate projectiles moving with that kind of speed - this seems to be reserved for heavier guns.

Urm. Crash into things? What "things" are you talking about? Ships constructed out of the same space age material? That with speed close to c? Yeah. That would be about right. And Mace is just capable of performing that feat due to his Shatterpoint ability. The man could also crush Corusca Gems by merely touching them. That doesn't mean that his fingers > 15 KG sledge-hammers.

This is great. You can take incidents from the movies or the EU and transport them into Reallife. Sorry. Those statements are apparently put there for a reason. You don't like it - not my problem. But I can make it more general. We're talking about a universe in which:

- Titanium is used as cheap and compareably weak material for the mass production of TIE Fighters for example.
- ship hulls are generally able to take sustained bombardment from energy weapons firing charged plasma at them
- miniature suns are used to power up capital ships, which turns modern day energy production into a joke (and they can contain and control them)
- metal in general takes enormous stress, heat, cold and so on, without much being done to the actual material.

Despite of that, you still think they are anywhere compareable to modern day military?...

How about reading and thinking before replying. Why would anybody bother to drop multiple nuclear bombs on a single army at a single location, huh? That limits the possible amounts of warheads Vader has to deflect to - one at any given time? Which was just an example of what Vader might be able to do. He has a freaking army of vehicles that could simply vaporize such a missle in air without problem.

If one of them is even going to be fired. I mean - what the hell. The threadstarter has defined that SW exists as franchise in the world that is about to be invaded. Just imagine your reaction if a freaking AT-AT stands in your garden. I'd say the ability of logical reasoning would escape you for quite some time, having the technological monstrosities of a fictional universe popping up in your country.

I'd say those people would have to cope with mass panic or with people try to see their "heroes" in action rather then bothering with thinking about a way to get rid of them in a military sense.

By dropping the mentioned nuclear warhead right into them, in case that line of thought wasn't obvious.

Can it be that there was a reason for me mentioning a TV? That would give Vader contact, information about their political position and the ability to focus on them. Right. And again this was just some random example, I tossed into here without care because the entire thread simply sucks.

Dude...

Star Destroyers aren't allowed.

If the world is at stake, then DROP ALL THE NUKES YOU WANT AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T DESTROY THE WORLD YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE

How can an AT-AT hit a misile when it can't aim high enough and can't hit snowspeeders that move slower than modern jets? Same with AT-STs.

Ya wanna apply physics? Then read my post above.

Originally posted by Eminence
Fixed. Truculent sends his regards.

Are you high? It's clearly Borborad.

Originally posted by Gideon
Are you high? It's clearly Borborad.
No:
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Bombarad - ever heard of tactical nukes?
Note the irony. The man is masterful.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
And what I'm trying to say is that physics other than very basic ones can't be mentioned in a universe with magical superhumans that can move objects.
Then why the f/uck did you make the thread?! Their tech. doesn't exist either so all of this is pointless.

I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were joking, but the precedent you set makes it clear that you'll manipulate the rules and logic so long as it benefits your argument. This whole thread has become spite and you're a poor debater.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
This whole thread has become spite and you're a poor debater.

Whereas Lucien is a Master debater.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were joking, but the precedent you set makes it clear that you'll manipulate the rules and logic so long as it benefits your argument.

Made this point before though it wasn't as pronounced.

At least someone else can pick up on it to.

Originally posted by mattatom
Whereas Lucien is a Master debater.

Made this point before though it wasn't as pronounced.

At least someone else can pick up on it to.

*bows* Whose house? Run's house!