Originally posted by jinzin
When it dictates how she moves it relates to her fighting ability... You can't really argue this, it isn't up for debate. It's the reason why characters like Mr. X and bloodwind fight as well as they do.
"Dictates"....... laughing So basically she is incapable of thinking on her own........ hysterical.... Do you understand that with this statement, you just proved just how incapable of a fighter she is compared to Batman? Think about it. If someone was one of the world's top three, most skilled chest players. "Dictating" every move, with his/hers own intelligence and years of experience,. And let's say someone happens to be in the world's top five, most skillfully chest players using TP to dictate how they move. Would you truly feel that they are anywhere near the same level? And yet all you've explained, is that she's using to help her fight. You haven't prove how it's "apart" of her will to fight. Unlike Shiva's "skill" (not ability) to dictate her fights with astonishing eye coordination and concentration. Similar to the likes of Michael Jordan, who had an exceptional ability to dictate his games. Basket ball and fighting require physical ability as well. Unlike what you say in these statements.
Originally posted by jinzin
Yes. Mentality, Will Power, and Deception are all either a state of mind or eminate from the mind, they have nothing to do with physical prowess. Again, you're just arguing to argue. It's absurd.play a big role in fighting if either fighter is not skilled and/or experienced, or both have similar skill/experience levels.|
doh If they have no skill or experience, physical attributes would play a role. And if not, there shouldn't be any claims that Cap/or Slade would outright beat Batman for the majority. Because if that's the case, then physical attributes would be a factor for the majority of fighting. Which would only help prove my point.
Originally posted by jinzin
Sure it does. Do i need to map this out for you in crayon?
Elektra is an assassin who takes down high profile targets.
Bruce Wayne is high profile.
Bruce Wayne does not wear the batsuit when he's at charity events as Bruce Wayne
Thus Elektra would fight Batman without his belt. |
Please explain to me why you even feel that Elektra has a high chance of assassinating Bruce Wayne just because he doesn't have his utility belt. As if it has never augured to him the probability of a assassination attempt on a high profile, Miltie billionaire like himself. How are you so oblivious to just how self aware and focus Batman is.
Catches an arrow shot by Green Arrow behind his back without looking:
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfii8.jpg
Detects a bullet fired by a sniper after its shot at him and quickly dodges it:
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detectivecomics8042005page218f.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detectivecomics8042005page229q.jpg
Here, Bruce is hiding in a tree, and an arrow is shot at him without him being aware of it. Then, before the arrow can reach him, he tosses a batarang at it casually, splits it in half, and splits the bow in half as well. This just goes to show how awesome Batman's reflexes/reaction speeds and accuracy are:
http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sreflexesep6.jpg
And I now realize that Batman is possibly faster than Eelektra. Do you wanna know the one thing people never mention? That he has add weight to 210 lbs. frame. The Bat-Suit it self, is made of 15 micro-layers of nomex-reinforce fabric along with body armor. Add the light weighted single piece cowl, cape with weighted tips, utility belt, weapons, and gadgets. And all while doing this.....
Moving in-between machine gunfire with ease and then kicks the Reaper (who is an expert marksman):
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detectivecomics577199ik.jpg
And the speed it would take for Batman to preform this feat, not only requires more momentum. But a lot more effort as well, compared to blocking bullets with sais (Batman's using his entire body to completely dodge the bullets). So without all the added weight, Batman would be even faster + better fighting skills. So her chances are still low.
Originally posted by jinzin
Tp IS used for fighting in Elektra's case so she doesn't fit into your generality.
Yes, exactly. She is using it as a "weapon", like Batman uses his utility belt for fighting. That is what you fail to understand, that TP is a "mental Weapon", not a punch or kick.
