Batman (Bale) vs Ozymandias

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
So that means Jon wasn't aware of his powers. He had 26 years to study on his new powers, and he sat on his "ass" being a government shill. Not to mention that his removal from humanity was partly a put on.

In the context of this fight, Batman has done more.

Rorschach figured out what was going on before he left for Antarctica. Batman is at least as skilled a detective, you can see this in both BB and TDK. Unlike Rorschach, Batman has better tools.

Non sequitur response, very telling. Which part of 'Manhattan was fooled into believing his inability to see the future meant Armageddon had happened' means he's unaware of his powers?

Yet you can't logically counter anything Veidt has done with Batman's feats. Just stick to B.S. claims of 'Batman is smarter because he's Batman.'

Rorschah figured it out after it was already too late. Being too late in this fight means Batman gets defeated. Of note, Rorschach not having Wayne's resources, yet still being a bad-ass detective tells us he's better than Wayne at detective work.

So you are saying that the man who can teleport to specific locations, build a complex machine with his mind, involving hundreds of small parts, turn a bunch of stuff from mars into a complex design of floating crytals that spun in sequence, and can be in multiple places at once is someone not worth outsmarting. Just because he was detatched from humanity doesn't change the fact that he was technically a genius.

Originally posted by omgchos
So you are saying that the man who can teleport to specific locations, build a complex machine with his mind, involving hundreds of small parts, turn a bunch of stuff from mars into a complex design of floating crytals that spun in sequence, and can be in multiple places at once is someone not worth outsmarting. Just because he was detatched from humanity doesn't change the fact that he was technically a genius.

He also left this galaxy to go and "create life", clearly he's no mental match for Wayne, who relys heavily on Fox for his inventions.

Yeah god forbid a man who can punch through concrete with his bare hands runs into a man who has trouble with dogs and skinny, pipe wielding, men in make up.

Originally posted by Robtard
Non sequitur response, very telling. Which part of 'Manhattan was fooled into believing his inability to see the future meant Armageddon had happened' means he's unaware of his powers?

Yet you can't logically counter anything Veidt has done with Batman's feats.

Rorschah figured it out after it was already too late. Being too late in this fight means Batman gets defeated. Of note, Rorschach not having Wayne's resources, yet still being a bad-ass detective tells us he's better than Wayne at detective work.

I am going by the rules of this forum. If there was a fight thread here called "Robocop vs The Butterball cenobite", you can't just say the cenobite wins when he didn't do anything in the movie.

Rorschach not being adequately prepared isn't a plus on his resume.

Originally posted by omgchos
So you are saying that the man who can teleport to specific locations, build a complex machine with his mind, involving hundreds of small parts, turn a bunch of stuff from mars into a complex design of floating crytals that spun in sequence, and can be in multiple places at once is someone not worth outsmarting. Just because he was detatched from humanity doesn't change the fact that he was technically a genius.

Autistic people can't focus on something unfamiliar. They use numbers to describe things, and the like. Mr manhattan just lets his god-like mind wander.

An omnipotent being not fully aware of his powers does not deserve to have them,

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Everything, it's illogical! How does nuclear holocaust on Earth affect him in any way? Jon wasn't an idiot, but he was slow on the uptake. I'll refer you back to the "Reed Richards Is Useless" trope. I don't like the name myself, but it fits here. Dr Manhattan is omnipotent, but did nothing for 26 years and let himself get beat by a guy with pedophilia on his hard drive.

I am going by the rules of this forum. If there was a fight thread here called "Robocop vs The Butterball cenobite", you can't just say the cenobite wins when he didn't do anything in the movie.

Rorschach not being adequately prepared isn't a plus on his resume.

That was a conclusion he came too, as he wasn't sure what was blocking his ability, just that it was blocked. This shows how ingenious Veidt was. See, you're ranting nonsense again, Manhattan was developing a machine to give free energy to the entire planet, so clearly he was doing something with his time.

No, you're making claims you can't back up (see your "labyrinth" claim as one of many examples) and making false claims about Veidt and Manhattan is some sad attempt to prove your senseless points correct.

Hahahahaa, there you go again, every time a point of your is obliterated(and they all have been), you try and dance it into something else. You claimed Batman is a better detective than Rorschach; when going by movie feats, he isn't.

You're either trolling for fun or your bias is so heavy it's causing you to consistently act like a complete imbecile. Either way, it's getting old.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
An omnipotent being not fully aware of his powers does not deserve to have them,

Originally posted by Robtard
That was a conclusion he came too, as he wasn't sure what was blocking his ability, just that it was blocked. This shows how ingenious Veidt was. See, you're ranting nonsense again, Manhattan was developing a machine to give free energy to the entire planet, so clearly he was doing something with his time.

No, you're making claims you can't back up (see your "labyrinth" claim as one of many examples) and making false claims about Veidt and Manhattan is some sad attempt to prove your senseless points correct.

Hahahahaa, there you go again, every time a point of your is obliterated(and they all have been), you try and dance it into something else. You claimed Batman is a better detective than Rorschach; when going by movie feats, he isn't.

You're either trolling for fun or your bias is so heavy it's causing you to consistently act like a complete imbecile. Either way, it's getting old.

I never once made a false claim against Veidt. Theoretically he could beat Batman, but not based on any feats shown.

Having equipment doesn't make you a lesser detective. Bruce discovered Ra's Al Ghuls plot in seconds after hearing it by the way.

Originally posted by omgchos
Hows that?

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Maybe he's autistic.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Jon was making an emotional decision to ignore facts. He knew nothing about himself. The fact that he remained on US Government property being their stooge is proof of this. He's a big, powerful idiot savant.

I never once made a false claim against Veidt. Theoretically he could beat Batman, but not based on any feats shown.

Having equipment doesn't make you a lesser detective. Bruce discovered Ra's Al Ghuls plot in seconds after hearing it by the way.

Originally posted by omgchos
So you are saying that the man who can teleport to specific locations, build a complex machine with his mind, involving hundreds of small parts, turn a bunch of stuff from mars into a complex design of floating crytals that spun in sequence, and can be in multiple places at once is someone not worth outsmarting. Just because he was detatched from humanity doesn't change the fact that he was technically a genius.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Maybe he's autistic.

the perfect counter argument. crylaugh

Do I need to bring out the clip Omg?

No clip could prove you right.

Originally posted by omgchos
No clip could prove you right.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Jon was making an emotional decision to ignore facts. He knew nothing about himself. The fact that he remained on US Government property being their stooge is proof of this. He's a big, powerful idiot savant.

I never once made a false claim against Veidt. Theoretically he could beat Batman, but not based on any feats shown.

Having equipment doesn't make you a lesser detective. Bruce discovered Ra's Al Ghuls plot in seconds after hearing it by the way.

Lol, dude. I just told you why he was on the compound, he was developing that free energy source for the world. Nice try though.

Yeah, you did. You claimed "[Veidt] didn't do much of anything" for one. You also said Batman would have the time to investigate Veidt and just assumed Veidt would be sitting on his ass.

But having lesser equipment and resources yet still being able to perform on a comparable level does. WTF? He discovered it after he heard it? That doesn't sound like much detective work going on In reality, Fox helped him, remember when Fox told Wayne about the vaporizer device and how it could/would affect the water pipelines under Gotham.

Ok so he knew kane was working for Rhaz, he knew Rhaz wanted to destroy the city, not much deductive reasoning ther my friend.