Batman (Bale) vs Ozymandias

Originally posted by Robtard
Now you're just ignorantly ranting again.

He set a plan to fool the entire planet and all its governments and he pulled it off flawlessly, ie he fooled/tricked everyone. He's clearly the more intelligent and has Batman beat (by a lot) in the "prep" department, the man can literally cover all angles and consider all factors. So in short, allowing prep in this fight only helps Ozymandias.

You have yet to prove Batman has "better prep feats".

Ha, let me guess, Batman outsmarting his opponents is a feat, but Ozymandias outsmarting his, which includes a god-like being and everyone on the planet somehow doesn't count?

Dude, I've obliterated every single failed point you've tried to B.S. in here for pages now, just give it up, your argument boils down to "Batman wins because he's Batman." Just STFU with that.

Yes, because Batmans opponents were activly working against him while no one was aware of Ozys plan until it was too late or didn't have the power to stop him if they tried. Batman has shown that he can take down lots of people at once, and the cop out argument against Batman concenrning the dogs is BS. He knocked one out with one slap of his arms. He has also shown to be a better detective than anyone in Watchmen.

Wrong, Batman was actively working against his opponents, not the other way around. Only one time was it reversed, when Ras went purposely to Bruce's house, because he figured out who Batman was behind the mask.

Ozymandias had Rorschach, Night Owl and Spectre actively trying to figure out what in the hell was going on, why Comedian was killed etc.

Ozymandias can take down two people at once who are capable of taking out multiple opponents themselves. You also previously said that Batman is no match in H2H to Ozymandias, now you're flipping again? Make up your mind.

See, your argument is just ill informed nonsense yet again and all you have is "Batman wins because he's Batman."

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
He has also shown to be a better detective than anyone in Watchmen.

I have no idea how this argument has gotten to 8 pages with ridiculous claims such as Batman being the pinnacle of human fighting ability. He a rich bloke who got pissed off at corruption and went and got an above average fight training and has a whole load of money to build gadgets and fight a bunch of fat old gangsters and the occasional crazy and reasonably intelligent villian.

Ozymandias was able to outthink and outfit the heros of his day. People who knew him and knew his abilities. To outwit and fool a super being that can see the future takes an immense level of intelligence. Almost an impossible degree of it. He fought and easily defeated other watchmen who themselves had better one-on-one fighting ability that Batman.

To be fair, outsmarting Dr. Manhattan is not as great a feat as people are pretending it is.

While he himself is very intelligent even as a human, along with possessing knowledge none can possess, his future-sight is overrated, he directly states that he can do nothing to change the future, only see it. He likens it to a multi-sided diamond, humans choose to see one side at a time, he sees the thing in its entirety.

Still more intellectually impressive than anything Baleman has done, which is the point here.

Dr. Hatch, this is just getting sad. Aren't you ready to admit that you're hanging onto this match due to fanboy-ism?

This is borderline spite, if you ask me.

Originally posted by Impediment
Dr. Hatch, this is just getting sad. Aren't you ready to admit that you're hanging onto this match due to fanboy-ism?

This is borderline spite, if you ask me.

Adrian did not try to prevent Rorschach breaking out of jail, and Batman could not do so either. 😐

As for Manhattan...Manhattan could stop either of them. Easily.

Oz's prep feats are on a far grander scale than Batman's.

Question for Dr. Will Hatch:

Do you think Batman could beat both Rorschach and Nite Owl at the same time?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Question for Dr. Will Hatch:

Do you think Batman could beat both Rorschach and Nite Owl at the same time?

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
H2H, no.

I love how so many people use this "with prep" bullshit excuse without actually ellaborating on what it means...Mostly because they have absolutely no idea what it means or what it would entail.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Well Ozymandias did yet you still claim Batman can beat him H2H?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Did the people rooting for Batman here actually [B]see Watchmen? If so they would seen the following:

-Ozymandias' opening fight scene with Comedian.
-Ozymandias is actually bullet-time, he was actually dodging bullets.
-Ozymandias catching a bullet.
-Ozymandias' pwning of both Rorschach and Nite Owl, who are arguably each better than Batman, at the same time.
-Ozymandias is w/o question smarter than Batman.

Spite thread IMO. 😬 [/B]

This post pretty much sums it up.

I am positive that this is a dumb very much uneven match-up thread.

It really is considering how much stronger & faster Ozymandias is than Batman. He would destroy movie Batman. Now, comic Batman is a totally different story.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Batman accomplished all of the things he set out to do.

Right.

Batman only succeeded in keeping the faith in Gotham by taking the blame, but other than that, the Joker ran circles around him.