God exists and is a terrible and hateful being, or God does not exist.

Started by Phantom Zone19 pages
Originally posted by Da Pittman
That is the point, is it a story or is it real. If it is a story to teach then cool, if it is a real event then it is BS.

No I think even if it was real the point is that its focused on a specifc location. Y'know its focused on Noah and his community not whats happening 2000 miles away. There are other things that are worth making a fuss over, this isn't one of them.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No I think even if it was real the point is that its focused on a specifc location. Y'know its focused on Noah and his community not whats happening 2000 miles away. There are other things that are worth making a fuss over, this isn't one of them.

However, There are people promoting the teaching of false information like the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood. Therefore, it is worth while to discredit this bible story.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, There are people promoting the teaching of false information like the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood. Therefore, it is worth while to discredit this bible story.

Seems more worthwhile to discredit the people than the story they're promoting.

If dealers tell little kids that Mighty Mouse is on drugs as a hook, does it make more sense to warn your kids that dealers lie or work to get Mighty Mouse taken off the air?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No I think even if it was real the point is that its focused on a specifc location. Y'know its focused on Noah and his community not whats happening 2000 miles away. There are other things that are worth making a fuss over, this isn't one of them.
It is not just about his location but the story talks about what happens to the entire world and to all the life on the planet. Yes is this just one part of the Bible but this is also a microcosm of the stories that are in the Bible. This is one of the few stories of the Bible that you can (to a point) test which does make it of importance. Can you test if there is a Heaven or how the universe was created but you can test to see if there was a world wide flood and a mass extinction of 99.9% of all life on the planet.

As for you it may not be important but I rather like debating the topic of Noah and for those that believe that the Bible's story of Noah is accurate and wish to prove that the Ark is real would also disagree with you. If you got something else that you would like to debate with me then what would you like?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Seems more worthwhile to discredit the people than the story they're promoting.

If dealers tell little kids that Mighty Mouse is on drugs as a hook, does it make more sense to warn your kids that dealers lie or work to get Mighty Mouse taken off the air?

Discrediting both would be the best way to go.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
It is not just about his location but the story talks about what happens to the entire world and to all the life on the planet. Yes is this just one part of the Bible but this is also a microcosm of the stories that are in the Bible. This is one of the few stories of the Bible that you can (to a point) test which does make it of importance. Can you test if there is a Heaven or how the universe was created but you can test to see if there was a world wide flood and a mass extinction of 99.9% of all life on the planet.

As for you it may not be important but I rather like debating the topic of Noah and for those that believe that the Bible's story of Noah is accurate and wish to prove that the Ark is real would also disagree with you. If you got something else that you would like to debate with me then what would you like?


There are only problems with the story if you hold it as the end all be all of the story in the same manner that those you look down on do. My point is that it ISN'T necessarily the end all be all of information on the topic so the supposed reason's for everything being God's fault don't really hold up. It'd be entirely possible for the story to be true without God being the callous monster you're making him out to be. Not that I necessarily believe it to be a literal truth, but it IS possible.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Discrediting both would be the best way to go.

What good thing comes from attacking Mighty Mouse again?

Originally posted by darthgoober
What good thing comes from attacking Mighty Mouse again?

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😕

Did you miss the second part of my post?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Did you miss the second part of my post?

No, but did you miss all of my post? 😉 😄

Originally posted by darthgoober
There are only problems with the story if you hold it as the end all be all of the story in the same manner that those you look down on do. My point is that it ISN'T necessarily the end all be all of information on the topic so the supposed reason's for everything being God's fault don't really hold up. It'd be entirely possible for the story to be true without God being the callous monster you're making him out to be. Not that I necessarily believe it to be a literal truth, but it IS possible.
I never said that everything is God's fault, but God wiping out all life on Earth but that on the Ark would be.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, but did you miss all of my post? 😉 😄

Which post?

If you caught it, why the confusion?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I never said that everything is God's fault, but God wiping out all life on Earth but that on the Ark would be.

Only if you consider it to be a bad enough thing that someone's "at fault". If most everything on Earth was corrupted and "Evil" and there were Nephlim running round killing everyone anyway then it doesn't really seem like such a bad thing.

And again, it wouldn't be God's fault because they were given warning. If they didn't get on the boat, it's their own damn fault.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Which post?

If you caught it, why the confusion?

Because your illustration of Mighty Mouse did get your point across, but to continue with it just made it seem like you missed the fact that I agreed with you fundamentally. I simply added that both would be better, assuming you would get the inference.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Because your illustration of Mighty Mouse did get your point across, but to continue with it just made it seem like you missed the fact that I agreed with you fundamentally. I simply added that both would be better, assuming you would get the inference.

Ah I didn't realize that you agreed. My bad...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Because your illustration of Mighty Mouse did get your point across, but to continue with it just made it seem like you missed the fact that I agreed with you fundamentally. I simply added that both would be better, assuming you would get the inference.

Wouldn't that require you to support absolute soul crushed totalitarianism?

Originally posted by darthgoober
And again, it wouldn't be God's fault because they were given warning. If they didn't get on the boat, it's their own damn fault.

Well the counter argument would be that people that go around saying "the end is nigh" usually don't get attention and there's no indication that Noah was given some sort of proof.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Wouldn't that require you to support absolute soul crushed totalitarianism?

Irrelevant post!

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Irrelevant post!

So . . . yes? 😛

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So . . . yes? 😛

Just checking. 😉

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well the counter argument would be that people that go around saying "the end is nigh" usually don't get attention and there's no indication that Noah was given some sort of proof.
👆 beat me to it