PR Beyonder VS Primal Monitor

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't think I am allowed to post, but I will PM with the scan! and everything. okay?

Okay. Well, I'll post what you gave me:

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5516/tmc018fcannotated07.jpg

I have no idea where its from or who wrote that, but even if it is official, it says, 'it seems Morrison is having Superman as the creator of his own universe...Superman plays God in a similar pose to the one who created the universe...'

Never says the DCU or the DC Multiverse. Says his own universe.

😬

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Or the Presence saying that Michael and other being are his toys because he created them. Then you got what Eny said.

And Yahweh is not The Presence.

Who is greater? Yahwe or The Presence?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Okay. Well, I'll post what you gave me:

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5516/tmc018fcannotated07.jpg

I have no idea where its from or who wrote that, but even if it is official, it says, 'it seems Morrison is having Superman as the creator of his own universe...Superman plays God in a similar pose to the one who created the universe...'

Never says the DCU or the DC Multiverse. Says his own universe.

😬

No, that was Yahweh who said that. And Yahweh is not The Presence.

EDIT: here is the cover

Originally posted by Forever Nick
Who is greater? Yahwe or The Presence?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Oh, but I like the idea. It does sat the hand that Krona saw, so we know it's DCU.

Originally posted by Enyalus


No, we don't "know" its the DCU. Because it says 'his' implied his own, not DCU, and 'universe' which is singular, instead of the standard DC multiverse. [/B]

Didn't someone (i forgot who) went to the begging of time to she how the Universe started. Because of what he did, there multiverse, or infinite parallel universe were created. Originally, there was only one universe. Right?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I think you missed my point.

Didn't someone (i forgot who) went to the begging of time to she how the Universe started. Because of what he did, there multiverse, or infinite parallel universe were created. Originally, there was only one universe. Right?

Right. Krona. I already said that.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Right. Krona. I already said that.

It would fit with the quote "everything comes from Superman"

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I am confused.
At first there was one universe. Because of what Krona did, multiply/infinite universes were created. Although, we did see a hand with one universe. Didn't Superman do that?? He created "one" universe??

Superman and Krypton itself weren't born yet. 😛

Originally posted by Enyalus
No. That was was The Source/God that did that.

Superman and Krypton itself weren't born yet. 😛

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Lol true!! BUT wouldn't it technically be called a paradox, or something like that.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Dude, again, I haven't read that magazine you posted from. Its probably some random guy's opinion. It definitely isn't Morrison's, and it really isn't supported by FC itself.

Originally posted by Forever Nick
Who is greater? Yahwe or The Presence?

They are the same being, some people don't understand the whole concept in Lucifer's comic. It was suppose to be Supermans hand Krona saw at the beginning talked about in FC. There is other dimensions outside the mutliverse like what was the Fourth World until The Source decided to make the Fifth World

Apparently they're the same being when they suit a pro-DC argument and not the same being when they hurt one.

I argued for them being the same being and was told by multiple people, with evidence, why they were not.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Apparently they're the same being when they suit a pro-DC argument and not the same being when they hurt one.

I argued for them being the same being and was told by multiple people, with evidence, why they were not.

Never seen it hurt one, never seen any evidence to they weren't, we know what The Voice is and The Source seems to be related to God as well (or is him).

We can never conclude if The Presence and Yahweh were one and the same, since no further evidence will ever be provided since Yahweh has left his role in Vertigoverse and passed it down to Elaine.

Unless a intercompany tie-in between Vertigo's Elaine and DC's The Presence (and their relation) ever come to fruition, we may never know.

Originally posted by Galan007
Aww I'm sorry. I didn't mean to upset you, buddy. 🙂

Upset me lol. Hardly. Don't get me wrong man your cool and a valuable member of this site. My point is, if it's a spade call it a spade. Even though I think Philo is a douche he calls it as it is 🙂

What if it's a spade?

Originally posted by Mindset
What if it's a spade?

haha good call man 😄 . I knew I could count on you

Originally posted by kevdude
They are the same being, some people don't understand the whole concept in Lucifer's comic. It was suppose to be Supermans hand Krona saw at the beginning talked about in FC. There is other dimensions outside the mutliverse like what was the Fourth World until The Source decided to make the Fifth World