Originally posted by Jynocidusbecause the PM is the blank canvas? that type of metafictional concept doesnt translate well here. it's meant for us not for the in-universe 'reality'. both pr beyonder and PM were the ultimate outer realities in which the marvel and DC multiverses unfolded as microbes.
i disagree with them being the same, however I don't think they can technically harm each other. too much of a head ache to explain.at the end of the day, PRB is still displayed on the PM. PRB can probably be as large or as small as he wants, though
Originally posted by Jynocidusconceptually prb is much close to pm than wf and imo prb>mxy.
I disagree because for one, Mxy is PR Beyonders Peer. Which means that PM cannot be equated to what PR Beyonder seemed to be to the MU, because whatever Mxy does is displayed on the PM also.Unless we just flat out say that Mxy is a notch down from PRB, then PM and PRB can be seen as equals.
Originally posted by 753
because the PM is the blank canvas? that type of metafictional concept doesnt translate well here. it's meant for us not for the in-universe 'reality'. both pr beyonder and PM were the ultimate outer realities in which the marvel and DC multiverses unfolded as microbes.
We might know more once Multiversity comes out. Morrison will dedicate an entire issue on DC's cosmology.
Originally posted by operator616What did Primal Monitor really do though ?
good battle, primal monitor is one of the few guys who can match the beyonder. both PM and PRB have showed that the multiverse is literally nothing compared to them, to PRB it was a droplet of water to PM it was a dot, so they're pretty much even.
Originally posted by RangerDXHyperbole imo. This is a comic book battle anyways.
Primal Monitor is the white pages in a comic book pretty much. I dont think Beyonder can affect him but Monitor hasnt really shown the combat power to take him either. Just depends on what type of drugs the writer is on LOL
Going with Beyonder on this one
While PM definitely seems to be powerful, a infinite void which encompasses the entire DC multiverse, PR Beyonder outright stated to be the sum of everything beyond the Marvel multiverse. That would arguably include PM and the DC multiverse as well. While PM is stated to be infinite, comics obviously have different levels of infinity, and he is not stated to be everything beyond the multiverse, just an arguably infinite being which houses it. There's nothing to suggest that he is not a mere sub-section of Beyonder who is everything outside the multiverse.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Going with Beyonder on this onehttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aGEo9-4GK6w/UDZo-w1yw6I/AAAAAAAAAFM/xv4U3N42Xfg/s1600/monitor.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/aliens/images/4/4c/955508-primal_monitor_cropped_super.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img204/9851/beyondspaceandtimefk9.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img204/6606/beyondspacetime2pq7.jpgWhile PM definitely seems to be powerful, a infinite void which encompasses the entire DC multiverse, PR Beyonder outright stated to be the sum of [b]everything
beyond the Marvel multiverse. That would arguably include PM and the DC multiverse as well. While PM is stated to be infinite, comics obviously have different levels of infinity, and he is not stated to be everything beyond the multiverse, just an arguably infinite being which houses it. There's nothing to suggest that he is not a mere sub-section of Beyonder who is everything outside the multiverse. [/B]
Multiverse is another term for omniverse in both Marvel and DC. In the scans from both Marvel and DC posted above, the term "multiverse" is used in place of omniverse. Why are you bytching about this?
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Lol at beyonder being everything including DC 😆
I'll admit this is a stretch, but I stand by the fact that Beyonder seems to be more powerful than PM. I'd mostly say stalemate, but I'd give Beyonder the odds if a victor had to be determined.
