most ppl cant separate reaction time reflex and hand eye coordination speed. ppl assume putting a shield in front of an attack is the same as countering and meeting the attack with weapons like swords or claws.
thats why ppl assume cap is fast as logan in hand speed movement and argue cap can keep up with logan in H2H without his shield even if you remove the bone and ckaws. 🙁
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
most ppl cant separate reaction time reflex and hand eye coordination speed. ppl assume putting a shield of an attack is the same as countering and meeting the attack with weapons like swords or claws.thats why ppl assume cap is fast as logan in hand speed movement.
Whatever.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneI think the writer was trying to imply that Wolverine was bringing the noise. Whether or not he was ALSO TRYING to imply that Wolverine was actually IN a berserker mode, he failed. Read the arc.
Hes met Wolverine before and he knows that wasnt normal Wolverine. In fact they've met alot. Again what do you think the writer was trying to imply?
Originally posted by Phantom ZonePretty much was Shadow said.
He blocked lasers with his hand ( he was wearing a gauntlet)...next!
Originally posted by jinzin
I think the writer was trying to imply that Wolverine was bringing the noise. Whether or not he was ALSO TRYING to imply that Wolverine was actually IN a berserker mode, he failed. Read the arc.
I have and you made some shit up.
Originally posted by jinzin
Pretty much was Shadow said.
Dont care what he said. Hes talking about Wolverine im talking about Steve and Elektra. Elecktra blocked bullet, Steve blocked lasers, hes talking about some other stuff.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneDont care what he said. Hes talking about Wolverine im talking about Steve and Elektra. Elecktra blocked bullet, Steve blocked lasers, hes talking about some other stuff.
elektra may have blocked bullets but her surface area was smaller then caps and required her to position her sais to block each individual bullet. cap only needs to raise his shield to use the surface area to block his attack of lasers that are flying into the path of his shield already in place.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
elektra may have blocked bullets but her surface area was smaller then caps and required her to position her sais to block each individual bullet. cap only needs to raise his shield to use the surface area to block his attack of lasers that are flying into the path of his shield already in place.
LOL so you didnt even undertsand the point being raised but jinzin was still backing you.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneHe blocked lasers with his hand ( he was wearing a gauntlet)...next!
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneYeah? Cause it would be a first for you.
I have and you made some shit up.
No I didn't, but I can't force you into taking into account what you want to ignore.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneWhat he said was a general statement that doesn't ONLY apply to Wolverine... 😕
Dont care what he said. Hes talking about Wolverine im talking about Steve and Elektra. Elecktra blocked bullet, Steve blocked lasers, hes talking about some other stuff.
Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah? Cause it would be a first for you.No I didn't, but I can't force you into taking into account what you want to ignore.
What he said was a general statement that doesn't ONLY apply to Wolverine... 😕
Forget it.
Originally posted by jinzin
😂Because sais and gauntlet's large enough to wrap around Cap's arms are of course the same exact in surface area.. 😐
😂 lasers >>> bullets. Computerised program > trained human.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
That laser feat sounds far more likely that Cap just trajectory blocked it, by seeing where it was aiming and then blocking before it was shot.Considering lasers move at light speed...
Yeah but its still more impressive than bullets. Even if you are using trajectory you have less time to react, also it was a cimputerised system and not human.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
That laser feat sounds far more likely that Cap just trajectory blocked it, by seeing where it was aiming and then blocking before it was shot.Considering lasers move at light speed...
Right now apply this to Elektra blocking bullets since bullets move as fast as sound. Heck recently she dodged a bullet only by dodging the aim and not the bullet. Because then she was shown to get shot when a better shooter got her IIRC.
Besides blocking bullets is overrated. I've seen even Zaran block multiple bullets and he's also athlete level like Elektra. Both are not at the pinnacle of human perfection in speed like Cap is. Moot feat moot point.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Yeah, most bullet dodging by MA's is actually trajectory dodging.
There's a few exceptions, but it generally is trajectories.
Thats not how Elektra did it. 😠 She is faster then sound. 🙄
Anyways I'm willing to concede Cap isn't as fast as light if Elektra isn't as fast as sound. Bottom line Cap has the better speed feats and was shown to be faster then Daredevil himself in a race, who is also a great athlete like Elektra.
Since Elektra doesn't have superhuman speed. Elektra doesn't even have the maximum level of human speed like Cap does thanks to the SSS.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Thats not how Elektra did it. 😠 She is faster then sound. 🙄Anyways I'm willing to concede Cap isn't as fast as light if Elektra isn't as fast as sound. Bottom line Cap has the better speed feats and was shown to be faster then Daredevil himself in a race, who is also a great athlete like Elektra.
Since Elektra doesn't have superhuman speed. Elektra doesn't even have the maximum level of human speed like Cap does thanks to the SSS.
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