Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher

Started by MooCowofJustice10 pages
Originally posted by FeelGood
Accept that's not true. 😖hifty:

Except*

I noticed a minute ago lol.

Originally posted by FeelGood
Accept that's not true. 😖hifty:

Sadly for Snake, it honestly is true. He may not have future tech, but he's definately not someone you easily catch of guard.

When he pays attention at least. In a fight he stays alert and thats why I think he wins.

It's not like Sam isn't alert.

Nothing to do with Sam, just Snake, he is very unstealthy allot of the time, but in battle hes not. Thats why I think he wins, when he puts in the effort he wont be beat.

As not as he may be, Sam is more stealthy in battle. You've stated yourself, and I haven't disagreed with the fact that Snake often isn't because he doesn't need to. He's a fairly fast-forward seek-and-destroy character. His confidence will be his downfall.

He will easily win 3rd though.

That's my point, he wont be in battle. He will be stealthy, wont have to use all his tricks becauses hes that good and will untimely win.

He's that good against the ones he has fought previously, but Sam is a greater stealth threat than anyone Snake has ever fought before. He IS that good against his common enemies, but honestly, no one is more dangerous than Sam. Not for one with human durability.

So you say. But whos to say hes good enough.

Which is why alls this is pointless.

Good enough? Sam has the accuracy, stealth technique and intelligence required to put Snake down.

So you think. But what proof is there of that.

1. Accuracy:

YouTube video

2. Stealth technique: Not only is he an adept parkour artist, but he's an elite commando that's been trained by the top forces of the world, nigh superhuman acrobatic skills and the reoccuring point which is 1:00 in the movie I posted on first page.

Snake has never fought anyone as dangerous as Sam in the setup of this particular battle. What proof do YOU have that Snake is so much beyond Sam? And I'm asking for points beyond "he doesn't need to". I want you to woo my thirst for a convincing argument in favor of Snake on this front.

3. Sam Fisher is an adept intelligence agent who is (In all honestly) technically older than Snake and with more experience and harsher training. Sam is by no means an amateur soldier that should have his intelligence overlooked.

What your asking for is difficult when both have very different styles. Where one uses allot of great moves and techniques and the other just uses his speed and general abilities.

Snake may never have faced anyone as good as Sam but its the same vice versa.

Originally posted by FeelGood
What your asking for is difficult when both have very different styles. Where one uses allot of great moves and techniques and the other just uses his speed and general abilities.

Snake may never have faced anyone as good as Sam but its the same vice versa.

You do realise that when I ask you for the same thing you've been asking from me, you excuse your inability to respond properly with "difficult"?

Very true, but that doesn't bypass the fact that Sam has advantages in this fight that should deem him victorious. Like I said earlier, Snake is too confident to be safe from Sam in the first fight. Again, he's a seek-and-destroy agent. He will move around. Sam can sit around for as long as it's required, as being invisible is his job. For Snake, it's a preference.

Skills doesn't stop that bullet from piercing your skull.

The only way Snake is losing in any of those scenarios is if Sam has his goggles and if there's enough dark areas.

As for the debate:

If Snake can take down Night Fright, Sam is going down.

To those who don't know who Night Fright is, he's a mercenary in Metal Gear 2 who wears an suit making him virtually invisible and undetectable to radar. He also uses a machinegun that makes little sound.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The only way Snake is losing in any of those scenarios is if Sam has his goggles and if there's enough dark areas.

As for the debate:

If Snake can take down Night Fright, Sam is going down.

To those who don't know who Night Fright is, he's a mercenary in Metal Gear 2 who wears an suit making him virtually invisible and undetectable to radar. He also uses a machinegun that makes little sound.

Precious A > B > C logic. I know who you're talking about and I've taken him in consideration every time I've made a post.

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]You do realise that when I ask you for the same thing you've been asking from me, you excuse your inability to respond properly with "difficult"?

Very true, but that doesn't bypass the fact that Sam has advantages in this fight that should deem him victorious. Like I said earlier, Snake is too confident to be safe from Sam in the first fight. Again, he's a seek-and-destroy agent. He will move around. Sam can sit around for as long as it's required, as being invisible is his job. For Snake, it's a preference.

Skills doesn't stop that bullet from piercing your skull. [/B]

No the skills don't but the skills stop Sam from ever having the chance to fire.

To be honest you just seem to be ignoring everything Snake has done and can do and just go back to the bullet again and again. Who's to say Snake will let Sam get close enough.

You need to play at least one of them to get a good idea of these two.

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]Precious A > B > C logic. I know who you're talking about and I've taken him in consideration every time I've made a post. [/B]

Well who's to say that guy isn't better than Sam.

But you are certain Sam is but its not definite is it.

Cowgirl is correct, A>B>C logic doesn't work because of the difference in characters.

Snake's ridiculous jobber aura isn't a part of vs matches.