Despero vs Thanos

Originally posted by Wally West
And can you please stop replying to every argument with comments like "Oh Superman could do that only better", or "Anyone in Marvel could do that".

But... Thanos fans do exactly the same thing : whenever I show them a scan - I've shown plenty scans thank you very much - of Superman doing something insane, they all say : Big deal, Thanos can do that also.

So maybe the Thanos fans can also stop replying to every argument with comments like "Thanos could do that also."

I've shown 7 or 8 scans of things I think Thanos can't do. Everyone was like : Yeah yeah, Thanos can do just the same thing. Without backing that up of course.

So don't complain about me.

For example : here is Superman absorbing the energy of an entire planet (read : entire planet). He didn't break a sweat.

Can Thanos do that ? And fyi, Despero >>> Superman.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Which issue?

I'd really put that aside as low showing, compared to rest of his durability showings which are far above Supes.

I wouldn't say his durability is far above Supes. Only against magic.

Black holes can have vastly different sizes, and the writers at Marvel and DC may not agrere with what happens when you get sucked into a black hole.

I don't think its said anywhere that he nearly died after that black hole "encounter" anyway, he just had some cuts.

Edit: It was in Infinity Abyss by the way, but we never actually see what happens to Thanos, its all off panel. His ship starts to get sucked into a black hole and then we see him next with some cuts chatting to Gamora.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Look Thanos beats Champion ! Yeah so ? Everybody beats Champion, he's the most overrated Marvel character ever. Thanos hid behind his shields, and punched him a bit. [/B]

Champion was out-witted by Thanos, not technically beat. Champion has only been beat once in physical combat, and that was without the power gem, over the course of 5 billion years of fighting opponents on just about every planet he landed on. I'd hardly call that a bad record. He has never been beaten physically while he has had possession of the power gem. Thanos out-witted him because he blew up the planet accidentally; that's more of a BFR than a physical win, and it shows Thanos' ability to use intellect while in the midst of combat.

Thanos made it look simple because his ability to dodge isn't something that you would expect of someone who's 7 feet tall and weighs close to a half ton. When you say that everybody beats Champion, you show your lack of knowledge about the Champion's past.

Thanos showed hand to hand skill killing one of the most deadly mercenary armies in the universe, just for practice. He typically pimp slaps people with a cosmic backhand because it humbles them and makes them look like fools, and when you have as much strength as Thanos, is an effective demoralizing feat.

Thanos went around for 80 years (which is longer than most comic book characters are old) travelling around the universe, just to learn different fighting styles and techniques. His hand to hand battles are subtle in that he makes it look easy; once again he does that to make his opponents look like fools and make them quickly lose hope in battle.

If you have ever watched ultimate fighting championships and such, you don't see people doing flashy jump kicks in the ring, because those are for show or for use against less skilled opponents. They do what is effective first and foremost, which is throw a few blows and quick strikes, then wrestle them to the ground and ground pound. Thanos has strength and durability such that he typically doesn't have to even go that far; his base quick strikes do so much damage that there is little point.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4823/fight136gd5.jpg

I don't make a big deal out of it - who cares - but I don't understand why you deny it.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I think you are not wearing your glasses. Thanos was clearly bleeding.

I don't make a big deal out of it - who cares - but I don't understand why you deny it.

Looks to me that Thanos was injured in that pic as you can see blood running down his arm.

Does anyone have the scans of the blackhole Superman survived by the way? Is there anyway to judge its size? The one Thanos encountered sucked everything in within a 2 light year radius.

Originally posted by Wally West
Does anyone have the scans of the blackhole Superman survived by the way? Is there anyway to judge its size? The one Thanos encountered sucked everything in within a 2 light year radius.

Originally posted by Juntai
Not sure the size, but Supes has ran into more than one black hole in his day.
And there may be different sizes of black holes, but the effect is still the same.

It just amazes me how someone can even use a low showing against Thanos and High showing For SUperman and somehow discredit one while explaining away another. That is just unreal. All black holes are collapsing Stars with exceptional gravitational pull. WW even Survived black hole once. And this is before her Byrne Powerup.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I think you are not wearing your glasses. Thanos was clearly bleeding.

I don't make a big deal out of it - who cares - but I don't understand why you deny it.

Well, didn't notice that. Still doesn't take anything away from his durability because of the reasons that Wally West said.

Originally posted by Juntai
Happened in the THANOS series I believe.

I wouldn't say his durability is far above Supes. Only against magic.

Did Superman go THROUGH a black hole, or just resisted it's pull?

And black holes defenitely come in different sizes and intensities.

It has been said before : Superman's feats are almost always discredited.

Supes has a lot of extra showings when compared to other characters, that alone makes straight comparisions rather unfair.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
It has been said before : Superman's feats are almost always discredited.

Any one who is compared to thanos, no matter how much you post about them, will ALWAYS get discredited. Even on this board where everyone is supposed to NON-JOb and fight to thier best. It's like a forum psychosis that Thanos can't lose to anyone who isn't an abstract or something.

Originally posted by Bentley
Supes has a lot of extra showings when compared to other characters, that alone makes straight comparisions rather unfair.

So why it is that Thanos's feats are discredited?

He destroyed a planet with ease. Fought against Odin. Fought against Tyrant. Fought against Thor with Power Gem and Warrior Madness. Knocked Thor out with two blasts. Hurt Galactus. Beat Silver Surfer to death with ease. One-shotted Drax the Destroyer.

Yet I don't see you even acknowleding this stuff and still saying that Despero has a chance against him. Why is that?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So why it is that Thanos's feats are discredited?

He destroyed a planet with ease. Fought against Odin. Fought against Tyrant. Fought against Thor with Power Gem and Warrior Madness. Knocked Thor out with two blasts. Hurt Galactus. Beat Silver Surfer to death with ease. One-shotted Drax the Destroyer.

Yet I don't see you even acknowleding this stuff and still saying that Despero has a chance against him. Why is that?

If take the culmination of Feats of the characters that Despero beat, and add them all up, it would only make sense that Despero can hang with Thanos. And it is really easy to pick apart most of Thanos' wins. Tech, Advanced Planning, Surprising Big G, ect. Thanos in no way shape or form should be able to even hang with Odin, who can defeat Surtur. Unless of Course you think Thanos has a chance in hell of Hanging with Surtur. Becuz that is the type of power he would have to be able to dish out and take to hang with the likes of Odin.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So why it is that Thanos's feats are discredited?

He destroyed a planet with ease. Fought against Odin. Fought against Tyrant. Fought against Thor with Power Gem and Warrior Madness. Knocked Thor out with two blasts. Hurt Galactus. Beat Silver Surfer to death with ease. One-shotted Drax the Destroyer.

Yet I don't see you even acknowleding this stuff and still saying that Despero has a chance against him. Why is that?

Some of his feats are imo stupid and I complain about it, but it happened and life goes on.

But it gets on my nerves that people are always over analyzing Thanos feats, and at the same time easily forgetting Despero's feats.

My point regarding the feats is, that its easier to defend a character when there are scans to defend him, Superman is the case and thats good. I dont look down to Supes skills, I rather dont consider them a lot higher than other feats just because they´re many and in paper.

Take Thanos for example, he fought Tyrant, thats pretty impressive, and it says a lot of things about his strenght, his durability and his fighting skill. Yet, there arent scans that speak just about the strenght, the durability etc., we are forced to assume this things by Thanos showings against other tier ones. If he can fight Tyrant physically, it just makes sense that he is strong.

What ticks me the wrong way is that some people discredit this inmediately, while its simply just a fact that at times we have to assume things to defend certain stances. Not everything will be on panel, we have to gather and interpret the information to a reasonable level. I´m glad that Supes shows that directly, but its just not the case for every single character.

Thats it, and applies to any character.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Show me one example of me not acknowledging a Thanos feat.

Some of his feats are imo stupid and I complain about it, but it happened and life goes on.

But it gets on my nerves that people are always over analyzing Thanos feats, and at the same time easily forgetting Despero's feats.

Okay, acknowledge the fact that Thanos was able to fight Odin and not die and then claim that Despero would actually be capable of hurting him.

Acknowledge the fact that he was able to destroy a planet and then try to claim that he could not kill Despero with ease.

I'm not forgetting Despero's feats, but the fact remains, Virtue and Vice is the only issue where he has done anything impressive. And even there Superman and the crew hardly used the full extent of their powers.