Despero vs Thanos

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl31 pages

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Okay, acknowledge the fact that Thanos was able to fight Odin and not die and then claim that Despero would actually be capable of hurting him.

Acknowledge the fact that he was able to destroy a planet and then try to claim that he could not kill Despero with ease.

I'm not forgetting Despero's feats, but the fact remains, Virtue and Vice is the only issue where he has done anything impressive. And even there Superman and the crew hardly used the full extent of their powers.


And Odin hardly used the Full extent of his powers on thanos. You see how easy it is to say that? Do you think Thanos would have a change fighting Surtur?

Originally posted by Bentley
Not everything will be on panel, we have to gather and interpret the information to a reasonable level.

I couldn't agree more. But the problem is, what is a reasonable level ?

Superman defender : Superman flew through two black holes, Thanos barely survived one.

Thanos defender : Big deal, those DC black holes are nothing compared to Marvel black holes.

Is that reasonable ? No, that's reaching for straws.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I couldn't agree more. But the problem is, what is a reasonable level ?

Superman defender : Superman flew through two black holes, Thanos barely survived one.

Thanos defender : Big deal, those DC black holes are nothing compared to Marvel black holes.

Is that reasonable ? No, that's reaching for straws.

And yet it happens alot here on these forums. Check the LT vs Spectre Threads if you haven't seen enough examples.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And Odin hardly used the Full extent of his powers on thanos. You see how easy it is to say that? Do you think Thanos would have a change fighting Surtur?

"Hardly used his full extent"?

He summoned Gugnir. He knocked out Surfer with one hit.

Like it or not, Odin was doing more damage with one hit then Despero could do on his best day. Despero can't hurt Thanos.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I couldn't agree more. But the problem is, what is a reasonable level ?

Superman defender : Superman flew through two black holes, Thanos barely survived one.

Thanos defender : Big deal, those DC black holes are nothing compared to Marvel black holes.

Is that reasonable ? No, that's reaching for straws.

DID he really fly through two black holes? How big were they? Issue numbers, scans?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
"Hardly used his full extent"?

He summoned Gugnir. He knocked out Surfer with one hit.

Like it or not, Odin was doing more damage with one hit then Despero could do on his best day. Despero can't hurt Thanos.

Do you think Thanos can stand up to Surtur yes or no? Your acting as if Despero can't hurt thanos when Thanos has been hurt by some warriors on an unknown planet, and we know he's not infinitely Durable. So what exactly is Thanos going to do to Despero since the only thing that can stop despero is the power of Johnny Sorrow? Hmm? I get so sick of people acting as if someone has to be more powerful than Odin to beat thanos. SO now i'm turning the tables. What the heck is Thanos going to do to Despero since he isnt 'as powerful as Johnny Sorrow's Face?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Okay, acknowledge the fact that Thanos was able to fight Odin and not die and then claim that Despero would actually be capable of hurting him.

You'll probably won't believe me, but that's one of my favorite fights. I love the macho talk between the two.

But Thanos didn't win that fight. He lost. It was an impressive display of his durability, but nothing more. And don't make it seem like Thanos is Juggernaut, because he isn't.

Thor made him bleed, Wolverine stabbed him (twice I think), that punk on the mercenary planet cut him with his axe, Thor has knocked him down with Mjolnir.

It's very very hard to hurt Thanos. But don't make it sound like it's impossible.

Acknowledge the fact that he was able to destroy a planet and then try to claim that he could not kill Despero with ease.

Destroying a planet... do you really think Despero or Superman - maybe even an enraged Hulk - couldn't do that ?
I'm not forgetting Despero's feats, but the fact remains, Virtue and Vice is the only issue where he has done anything impressive. And even there Superman and the crew hardly used the full extent of their powers.

He was still kicking them around.

I wonder if Wolverine could cut Superman with his bone claws?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I wonder if Wolverine could cut Superman with his bone claws?

Spell non-canon.

Holes

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I couldn't agree more. But the problem is, what is a reasonable level ?

Superman defender : Superman flew through two black holes, Thanos barely survived one.

Thanos defender : Big deal, those DC black holes are nothing compared to Marvel black holes.

Is that reasonable ? No, that's reaching for straws.

I agree that is a weird defense. It would make much more sense to claim that Superman actually flies and can get out of a black whole without being dealt a lot of damage, while Thanos has to withstand it.

It would be nice to see how "barely" was Thanos survival and how "through" was Supes flying to back the argument above. Personally I only know the anecdote by name.

I´m not saying that the Marvel/DC blackhole defense holds (because defending such position will be stretching things), but its important to point out that different writers may have different conceptions of what a blackhole is, afterall, its not like is a well known event all in all. Twisted as it may sound, you can argue that a blackhole is as fictional in comics as Zeus, and thus, the Zeus of each universe being different to one another, there is a difference between the holes themselves.

Obvious answer to the argument above: Prove it.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
You'll probably won't believe me, but that's one of my favorite fights. I love the macho talk between the two.

But Thanos didn't win that fight. He lost. It was an impressive display of his durability, but nothing more. And don't make it seem like Thanos is Juggernaut, because he isn't.

Thor made him bleed, Wolverine stabbed him (twice I think), that punk on the mercenary planet cut him with his axe, Thor has knocked him down with Mjolnir.

It's very very hard to hurt Thanos. But don't make it sound like it's impossible.
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Destroying a planet... do you really think Despero or Superman - maybe even an enraged Hulk - couldn't do that ?
[B]
He was still kicking them around.

Spiderman has also toppled Thanos with a kick.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
You'll probably won't believe me, but that's one of my favorite fights. I love the macho talk between the two.

But Thanos didn't win that fight. He lost. It was an impressive display of his durability, but nothing more. And don't make it seem like Thanos is Juggernaut, because he isn't.

Thor made him bleed, Wolverine stabbed him (twice I think), that punk on the mercenary planet cut him with his axe, Thor has knocked him down with Mjolnir.

Thanos did not lose. The fight was stopped before Odin could attack him again.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9032/fight1215zp6.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1751/fight1216in5.jpg

(And yes, I know Odin could defeat Thanos)

Thor has only made him bleed with his more powerful attacks, or when he had the Power Gem and Warrior Madness.

Wolverine stabs everyone, so what? Other time was on DC VS Marvel which does not count, other time was with IG...and I think both you and me know how ridicolous that one was.

We don't know how powerful that guy who cut him was. And I can make that one worthless by posting dozen better durability feats from Thanos. Majority wins.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
It's very very hard to hurt Thanos. But don't make it sound like it's impossible.
[B]

Impossible for Despero, yes.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Destroying a planet... do you really think Despero or Superman - maybe even an enraged Hulk - couldn't do that ?

Not with the ease Thanos did.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
[B]
He was still kicking them around.

Because they fought like frigging retards. I repeat, CAPTAIN MARVEL WAS JUST HANGING FROM HIS NECK.

Again, like it or not, Thanos has shown that he can take more damage then Despero can dish on his best day, and give more damage then Despero can take on his best day.

Sorry, but Thanos wins.

Originally posted by Juntai
Spiderman has also toppled Thanos with a kick.

Yeah, and Batman has toppled Captain Marvel and Superman.

Does it lower their durability by even one bit? No.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Spell non-canon.
?????

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Spell non-canon.

Thanos got cut with an Ax. Spell Cannon.

Originally posted by Juntai
Spiderman has also toppled Thanos with a kick.

😕 When?

I´m starting to see this better now, I overrated Desespero before, but Darkcrawler is right, he has only a good showing against top heros fighting like 5 year olds, its not all that great.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Do you think Thanos can stand up to Surtur yes or no? Your acting as if Despero can't hurt thanos when Thanos has been hurt by some warriors on an unknown planet, and we know he's not infinitely Durable. So what exactly is Thanos going to do to Despero since the only thing that can stop despero is the power of Johnny Sorrow? Hmm? I get so sick of people acting as if someone has to be more powerful than Odin to beat thanos. SO now i'm turning the tables. What the heck is Thanos going to do to Despero since he isnt 'as powerful as Johnny Sorrow's Face?

Jesus Christ, I never said that Odin could not defeat Thanos, but he DID use a lot of power against Thanos.

For the love of god almighty, do you really think one needs to be as powerful as Johnny Sorrow's face to hurt Despero. On Virtue and Vice, where Despero was on his most powerful, freaking tear gas from Green Arrow put him on his knees. Hawkman hurt him. Superman hurt him. In fact, every time someone attacked Despero, he got hurt.

And by the holy spirit, do you really think that getting snatched by some warrior is suddenly going to make every other durability feat Thanos has suddenly not count?

You really need to step up your debating tactics.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Thanos did not lose. The fight was stopped before Odin could attack him again.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9032/fight1215zp6.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1751/fight1216in5.jpg

(And yes, I know Odin could defeat Thanos)

Thor has only made him bleed with his more powerful attacks, or when he had the Power Gem and Warrior Madness.

Wolverine stabs everyone, so what? Other time was on DC VS Marvel which does not count, other time was with IG...and I think both you and me know how ridicolous that one was.

We don't know how powerful that guy who cut him was. And I can make that one worthless by posting dozen better durability feats from Thanos. Majority wins.

Impossible for Despero, yes.

Not with the ease Thanos did.

Because they fought like frigging retards. I repeat, CAPTAIN MARVEL WAS JUST HANGING FROM HIS NECK.

Again, like it or not, Thanos has shown that he can take more damage then Despero can dish on his best day, and give more damage then Despero can take on his best day.

Sorry, but Thanos wins.

Yeah, and Batman has toppled Captain Marvel and Superman.

Does it lower their durability by even one bit? No.

Show me Batman toppling Supes.
Captain Marvel instance was a planned set-up. Assuming you're speaking of the Hawkman and Marvel vs Supes and Bats fight.

I don't think Supes durability is much below Thanos.
Maybe a little more consistant at times, because Supes is in like 10 comics monthly and Thanos only has so many appearances. They have both survived the incredible.

And I do agree Thanos beats Despero btw.

Power Lines have downed Superman.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Jesus Christ, I never said that Odin could not defeat Thanos, but he DID use a lot of power against Thanos.

For the love of god almighty, do you really think one needs to be as powerful as Johnny Sorrow's face to hurt Despero. On Virtue and Vice, where Despero was on his most powerful, freaking tear gas from Green Arrow put him on his knees. Hawkman hurt him. Superman hurt him. In fact, every time someone attacked Despero, he got hurt.

And by the holy spirit, do you really think that getting snatched by some warrior is suddenly going to make every other durability feat Thanos has suddenly not count?

You really need to step up your debating tactics.

It doesn't matter how much Despero Got Hurt in the battle, He himself said that he wasn't dispactched that Easily. I'm just showing what it takes to win a battle against Despero. And let's not forget that the more powerful the body, the more powerful Despero. Let's say Thanos had to fight Despero in a Daxamite Body. What would happen then? As far as the warrior feat of cutting Thanos, I was merely pointing out that Thanos as it seems, has a Wonder WOman weakness. Weak to ALl things sharp and pointy. 🙂. Claws, Axes and the like. I'm not the best debater here at all. I'm only here for one purpose. DC=Marvel.