Martial Artist Rankings

Like our thread that gives us an accurate power level rating I feel the martial artists could use one. Let's try to keep this alphabetized. Feel free to express your opinion on how many tiers you feel should be used. I'm using the "Ranks for MAs" thread in the Comic Books Forum as a template. We can suggest alterations to the list in posts in this particular thread. I feel if we all work together we can come to an understanding on who's ranked what and differentiate the character's martial arts skills.

I’ll ask also before adding a character on the list or changing there tier to have a short vote with your fellow posters. If agreed on then when you post the new list, post the new addition or change in bold highlight please. I also recommend this become a “Note” thread as well.

Uber Tier (Un-Earthly Martial Artists): Morpheus, Neo, Po, River Tam, Shifu, Tai Lung, The Protector, YuLaw

Top Tier (Greatest Martial Artists): Beatrix Kiddo, Batman(Bale), Blade, Captain America, Daredevil, Elektra, Jason Bourne, John Preston, Liu Kang, Nite Owl, Ozymandias, Ra’s Al Ghul, Selene, Silk Spectre, The Transporter, Tigress

Second Tier (Master Martial Artists): Achilles, Agent(Matrix), Agent 47, Agent Smith, Darth Maul, James Bond(Craig), Lady Deathstrike, Mai Lihn, Mystique, Nemo, Power Rangers, Rorschach, The Operative(Serenity), Trinity, Wolf, Worf, V

Third Tier (Highly Skilled Martial Artists): Beck, Bullseye, Bumblebee, Bob Lee Swagger, Cyclops, Darius Stone, Elasti-Girl, Fox(Wanted), James Bond(Brosnan, Connery) Jango Fett, Jean-Luc Picard, John Rambo, John Triton, Kingpin, Lara Croft, Leonidas, Martin Riggs, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Optimus Prime, Punisher(Jane), Red Grant, Sabretooth, Sonny, Spawn, Spock, Wolverine, Zorro(Banderas)

Fourth Tier (Trained Martial Artists): Alan Quartermain, Blonsky, Comedian, General Grievous, James Kirk, John McClane, Joker(Ledger), Malcolm Reynolds, Mr. Incredible, Mathayus, Memnon, Nightcrawler, Nomak, The Russian, Thing, Tyler Durden, Wesley Gibson, Xander Cage

Accomplished Fighter (Little formal training/Some Skill ): Abomination, Beast, Colossus, Green Goblin, Hancock, Harry Potter, Hulk, Indiana Jones, Iron Man, Jason Vorhees, Juggernaut, Michael Myers, New Goblin, Spider-Man, Superman, Two-Face

Harry Potter?

What the ?

I know.....

Don't mess around. Once Harry's put the wand down, it's ON!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

What's wrong with Potter's placement? He knows martial arts? Don't just say "what the hell", tell me what's wrong. Were all supposed to figure this out. Any changes you feel need to be made?

I find some of those placements really weird. Morpheus in the so-called "uber tier" yet Agent Smith in the 2nd tier...Despite the fact the Smith kicked the absolute shit out of Morpheus.

Then there's Obi wan on the same level as Bob Lee Swagger and Picard...I'm actually laughing like **** at the one.

Wesley Gibson in the 4th tier. The guy is practically superhuman in terms of reflexes.

How can you possible say that Trinity is 2 tiers below Morpheus anyway...If you're going purely on martial arts skills then her, Morpheus and Neo are all effectively masters of all martial arts. The only thing that makes Neo better is that he project far more speed and power.

To be fair though, I can see what it is you've tried to do. It's purely on martial arts knowlege and skill. But on that then the matrix characters would all be top level because they're all programmed to be masters of all fighting styles.

Yeah, much as I like Swagger, he and Obi Wan on even ground?

So let me get your gripes straight.

Swagger & Picard should be moved one tier up or Kenobi one tier down? Btw, I haven't seen Shooter but I saw one h2h scene that impressed in it.

Gibson didn't show any h2h skills at all. For the record, just b/c someone is superhumanly fast or strong, that doesn't matter here.

Morpheus struck me as better than Trinity b/c he handled Neo in the dojo, battled two agents, and did okay vs the twins. Trinity go handled by the one twin. So but I'll agree to put Trinity in 2nd tier.

Harry Potter? Are ya'll agreeing with his placing or should he be higher. I'm confused.

Anything else?

Potter shouldnt even be on the list, he displayed zero fighting skills.

You're forgetting about Jackie Chan characters, Van Damn(yes, I did this on purpose) characters, and most of all, more Jet Li and Bruce Lee characters.

Also, you didn't put most of the characters in the correct tiers and you misnamed a couple of tiers.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Gibson didn't show any h2h skills at all. For the record, just b/c someone is superhumanly fast or strong, that doesn't matter here.

In that case, your list is even more laughably skewed. As there are several people who where outright deadly with weapons/powers, but didn't do much of anything H2H-wise.

It should be noted that John Preston would pwn just about everyone in the Uber Tier.

I dont think power should count. Strictly skill should count. Where the **** is Alice?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I dont think power should count. Strictly skill should count. Where the **** is Alice?

Yeah. She is uber powerful.

I think you should remove a tier and then list all of the candidates and then fill the tiers by popular opinion. Maybe after listing the tiers and the candidates you can ask which ten belong in tier 1 and then which ten belong in tier 2 and so on. I only suggest this because it seems that the people you have in specific tiers contradict each other. You should come up with 30 people and 3 tiers. After those are set you could always introduce new candidates. That way there will be some kind of consistency.

If we are going on fighting ability and skill over superpower i think that list definitely needs a reboot. I really think this is a hard one to judge though because many of the people on that list rely on their special abilities to enhance their martial arts. It is very hard to say how skilled of a fighter a lot of those candidates would be without their special abilities (super powers). .

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah. She is uber powerful.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I was thinking of her straddling my face, machine gun in each hand.

would she be wearing panties or no?

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
would she be wearing panties or no?