Martial Artist Rankings

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I don't recall any h2h feats from Maul and Obi.

You must not have watched the movies for a very long time then.

Kenobi shows very good h2h skills against Jango Fett in AotC (At two points in the fight he nails him with flying kicks).

Maul shows superb h2h skills in TPM including jump kicking Kenobi in the torso and knocking him off his feet, kicking him again in the face and knocking him off a walkway, kicking him again in the head (although he lands on his feet this time), and kicking Qui-Gonn Jinn in the face and knocking him away while lying on his back.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
You must not have watched the movies for a very long time then.

Kenobi shows very good h2h skills against Jango Fett in AotC (At two points in the fight he nails him with flying kicks).

Maul shows superb h2h skills in TPM including jump kicking Kenobi in the torso and knocking him off his feet, kicking him again in the face and knocking him off a walkway, kicking him again in the head (although he lands on his feet this time), and kicking Qui-Gonn Jinn in the face and knocking him away while lying on his back.

Considering the levels of H2H combat shown by other fighters such as Neo and Tai Lung, you can seriously say Kenobi and Maul's feats can be described as "superb"?

Also Kenobi doesn't not show "very good h2h skills" at any point.

Above average I'd say.

Originally posted by Placidity
Considering the levels of H2H combat shown by other fighters such as Neo and Tai Lung, you can seriously say Kenobi and Maul's feats can be described as "superb"?

Yes.

Do you think it's easy to do stuff like that? Anyone who can do that stuff has my respect.

Originally posted by Placidity
Also Kenobi doesn't not show "very good h2h skills" at any point.

Watch this:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5jAwXmPRlQ

As you see, Kenobi does indeed show "very good h2h skills." You must not have watched this movie before.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Yes.

Do you think it's easy to do stuff like that? Anyone who can do that stuff has my respect.

Watch this:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5jAwXmPRlQ

As you see, Kenobi does indeed show "very good h2h skills." You must not have watched this movie before.

LMAO, looked like two people in a bar brawling. Except Obi Wan opened with a fancy kick, thats all you got lol. And yes I've watched this movie plenty of times, probably more than you 😉

This following would be called "very good h2h skills". Hope you see a difference. But you being someone who has over 1k posts in the SW forum (smell bias much?), I don't really expect you to.

YouTube video

Originally posted by Placidity
LMAO, looked like two people in a bar brawling. Except Obi Wan opened with a fancy kick, thats all you got lol.

Nope. Kenobi also kicks Jango twice while on the ground (once in the head, once in the gut) and kicks him off the platform.

Originally posted by Placidity
And yes I've watched this movie plenty of times, probably more than you 😉

That seems doubtful, considering that you claimed Kenobi had no h2h skills, when that scene clearly shows he does.

Originally posted by Placidity
This following would be called "very good h2h skills". Hope you see a difference. But you being someone who has over 1k posts in the SW forum (smell bias much?), I don't really expect you to.

YouTube video

No, the following would be called "inhuman h2h skills" or "brilliant h2h skills." Calling that "very good" is like saying da Vinci was a "very good" artist. He wasn't; he was a BRILLIANT artist. An artist doesn't have to be equal to da Vinci to be "very good."

In any case, you're splitting hairs. The point is that another poster (Wei Phoenix) said that Maul and Kenobi had no h2h feats when in fact they do.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Nope. Kenobi also kicks Jango twice while on the ground (once in the head, once in the gut) and kicks him off the platform.

Oh gee, that was very impressive 🙄 . What do you mean by nope?

Originally posted by chilled monkey
That seems doubtful, considering that you claimed Kenobi had no h2h skills, when that scene clearly shows he does.

Show me where I said Obi Wan had "no H2H skills". I'd like to see that really.

Originally posted by chilled monkey

No, the following would be called "inhuman h2h skills" or "brilliant h2h skills." Calling that "very good" is like saying da Vinci was a "very good" artist. He wasn't; he was a BRILLIANT artist. An artist doesn't have to be equal to da Vinci to be "very good."

Really? You described Maul as being "Superb" at H2H.

Originally posted by Placidity
Oh gee, that was very impressive 🙄 . What do you mean by nope?

Yes it was.

Nope is another word for "no," "negative" and the like. You said "Obi Wan opened with a fancy kick, thats all you got." The "nope" was in reference to the fact that Kenobi did more than that.

Originally posted by Placidity
Show me where I said Obi Wan had "no H2H skills". I'd like to see that really.

Your exact words were:-

"Also Kenobi doesn't not show "very good h2h skills" at any point."

What do you call his fight with Jango then?

Originally posted by Placidity
Really? You described Maul as being "Superb" at H2H.

And I think he is. Kicking over a Jedi (apprentice yes, but he was very close to being knighted) while fending off another attacker is very impressive. Maul does it twice.

I fail to see what the problem is since I've shown both Kenobi and Maul have h2h feats.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Yes it was.

Nope is another word for "no" "negative" and the like. You said "Obi Wan opened with a fancy kick, thats all you got." The "nope" was in reference to the fact that Kenobi did more than that.

Yes, so he did open with a fancy kick. I meant "thats all you got" as in thats the only part of the fight in which showed he had MA skills. The rest was not impressive in the slightest (brawling).

Originally posted by chilled monkey

Your exact words were:-

"Also Kenobi doesn't not show "very good h2h skills" at any point."

Originally posted by Placidity

Show me where I said Obi Wan had "no H2H skills". I'd like to see that really.

Still waiting.

Originally posted by Placidity
Yes, so he did open with a fancy kick. I meant "thats all you got" as in thats the only part of the fight in which showed he had MA skills. The rest was not impressive in the slightest (brawling).

That was not the only part. Kenobi also kicks Jango twice while on the ground (once in the head, once in the gut meaning he can defend himself while in a bad position) and sends him off the platform with another flying kick. This shows very good MA skills. Kicking Fett off the platform like that was highly impressive.

Originally posted by Placidity
Still waiting.

You said,

"Also Kenobi doesn't not show "very good h2h skills" at any point."

In other words, you are saying he is a poor h2h fighter. What else could you possibly mean? This is basically the same as saying he has no h2h skills.

True, you didn't say those exact words, but the meaning is the same.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
You said,

"Also Kenobi doesn't not show "very good h2h skills" at any point."

In other words, you are saying he is a poor h2h fighter. What else could you possibly mean? This is basically the same as saying he has no h2h skills.

True, you didn't say those exact words, but the meaning is the same.

😆

Originally posted by Placidity
😆

Since you are unable or unwilling to provide an answer, this is my win.

And I still don't get what your problem was. I clearly showed that Maul and Kenobi have h2h feats.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Since you are unable or unwilling to provide an answer, this is my win.

lol.

Let me replace your post with a few words...

Originally posted by chilled monkey

You said,

"Also Padawan doesn't not show "very good lightsaber skills" at any point."

In other words, you are saying he is a poor lightsaber fighter. What else could you possibly mean? This is basically the same as saying he has no lightsaber skills.

True, you didn't say those exact words, but the meaning is the same.

Yes, you Win! 😆

Originally posted by Placidity
lol.

Let me replace your post with a few words...

Yes, you Win! 😆

You lost me.

Your logic doesn't even make sense to yourself. I know, crazy right?