Batman vs Spiderman

Started by Juntai20 pages

Originally posted by Space M ummy
I see this match going this way.

It's going to take dozens of well placed hits by batman to take spiderman down- that's IF they manage to land, given spiderman's much greater speed and precognitive abilities via spider sense.

ONE hit from a not-screwing-around spiderman will KILL batman. even a half strength (say 5 ton) hit to anything vital and it's game over.

Once again, this is taking your mental image of the character, and using that, instead of what's shown in the comics.

How would you compare Spiderman's speed to this?
http://img170.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=08632_batsuperduck_122_627lo.jpg&loc=loc627#
Shit, he even rocks a bunch of Parademons in that scan. Those guys are around Spiderman's level, if not higher.

Would you say Spiderman hits a lot harder than Mongul?
http://img23.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc1&image=648_batmongul1.jpg
Or Metallo, or Wonderwoman, Grundy, Aquaman, Superman, etc, all of whom Batman has gone rounds with with and taken heavy blows from?

A halfstrength punch from Spiderman will kill him?
lol.

wow this is just... 😖 🤨

Juntai, why are you only using high feats?

Dodging Superman, even moving slower than normal...seriously?

Originally posted by grimify
Bruce's armor is being drastically under-rated. He's taken hits from people way above Spiderman's strength without much trouble.

Bruce will land punches, and he will hurt Spiderman with every one of them. Bruce would win a majority with just his standard equipment, but if you give him 2 days prep, it's overkill.

Without prep its Spiderman all the way. With prep though, its a different story as Batman, like Punisher, is a prep master. Batman with prep wouldn't be overkill though-maybe 6/10 in Bruce's favour, as he has access to all sorts of equipment and would probably come up with, say, a device that attacks Pete though his Spidersense.

Originally posted by Juntai

Would you say Spiderman hits a lot harder than Mongul?
http://img23.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc1&image=648_batmongul1.jpg
Or Metallo, or Wonderwoman, Grundy, Aquaman, Superman, etc, all of whom Batman has gone rounds with with and taken heavy blows from?

A halfstrength punch from Spiderman will kill him?
lol.

If you think Batman taking a heavy blow from those class 100's isn't PIS, then you're INSANE. Do you think his body is actually strong enough to take serious blows from the guys you mentioned. PIS blows are fine, everyone takes PIS blows, but using them as evidence in this scenerio is nothing short of absolutley retarded. Especially when YOU KNOW FOR A FACT that any of the class 100's you mentioned above could just push their hand through his body as if it was paper.

Originally posted by Juntai
How would you compare Spiderman's speed to this?
http://img170.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=08632_batsuperduck_122_627lo.jpg&loc=loc627#
Shit, he even rocks a bunch of Parademons in that scan. Those guys are around Spiderman's level, if not higher.

Would you say Spiderman hits a lot harder than Mongul?
http://img23.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc1&image=648_batmongul1.jpg
Or Metallo, or Wonderwoman, Grundy, Aquaman, Superman, etc, all of whom Batman has gone rounds with with and taken heavy blows from?

A halfstrength punch from Spiderman will kill him?
lol.

Originally posted by Juk3n
If you think Batman taking a heavy blow from those class 100's isn't PIS, then you're INSANE.

^ Yup we have an Arkham-certified insanity case on our hands.

Originally posted by Mindset
Juntai, why are you only using high feats?

Dodging Superman, even moving slower than normal...seriously?

Yes, they're high feats, but it was just to prove a point. I could name several more guys in that class that he's done it with.

And at what point of consistency does it stop being PIS completely?
Batman tangles with and takes blows from guys as strong or stronger than Spiderman consistantly enough, and he's never died from a random half-power shot. lol.

Alternatively, I could go towards more of the middle of the pack, and talk about him doing the same with characters like Hawkgirl, Deathstroke, Hawkman, Killer Croc, Cheeta, Starman, or the Parademons as mentioned before?

Seriously, this can go on and on.

Spiderman has physical advantages, sure, but they're certainly nothing Batman has never encountered or dealt with in other characters before.

Here, he has 2 days of Prep.
That pretty much cements his victory.

Originally posted by Juntai
Yes, they're high feats, but it was just to prove a point. I could name several more guys in that class that he's done it with.

And at what point of consistency does it stop being PIS completely?
Batman tangles with and takes blows from guys as strong or stronger than Spiderman consistantly enough.

Alternatively, I could go towards more of the middle of the pack, and talk about him doing the same with characters like Hawkgirl, Deathstroke, Hawkman, Killer Croc, Cheeta, Starman, or the Parademons as mentioned before?

Seriously, this can go on and on.

Exactly why featwars are a bad way to argue and are entirely circular. I could use Firelord, Strange, Magneto, FF, Xmen, Hulk, Titania, etc. All of the high stories of Spiderman, and show Batman have problems with guys like the Huge Batclone in the Father/Son Arc. Or his original enemies like Penguin, etc. We both know that these characters have taken "far worse" it's what they do as heroes.

Feats have their purpose but simply saying what happens and not taking the character's abilities into consideration that have been established leads to these types of arguments. A big problem here on this forum.

Common sense tells us that Batman isn't pulletproof and that a bullet to the head will kill him, Spiderman generates much more force than a bullet. He has prep here which gives him the advantage.

Originally posted by Juntai
Yes, they're high feats, but it was just to prove a point. I could name several more guys in that class that he's done it with.

And at what point of consistency does it stop being PIS completely?
Batman tangles with and takes blows from guys as strong or stronger than Spiderman consistantly enough, and he's never died from a random half-power shot. lol.

Alternatively, I could go towards more of the middle of the pack, and talk about him doing the same with characters like Hawkgirl, Deathstroke, Hawkman, Killer Croc, Cheeta, Starman, or the Parademons as mentioned before?

Seriously, this can go on and on.

Thats right boss, it will go on and on-and theres nothing you can do about it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Exactly why featwars are a bad way to argue and are entirely circular. I could use Firelord, Strange, Magneto, FF, Xmen, Hulk, Titania, etc. All of the high stories of Spiderman, and show Batman have problems with guys like the Huge Batclone in the Father/Son Arc. Or his original enemies like Penguin, etc.

Feats have their purpose but simply saying what happens and not taking the character's abilities into consideration that have been established leads to these types of arguments. A big problem here.

Common sense tells us that Batman isn't pulletproof and that a bullet to the head will kill him, Spiderman generates much more force than a bullet.

http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc138&image=72d_batsuit2.jpg

Batman takes a bullet to the head, it bounces off.

Try again.

Originally posted by Juntai
http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc138&image=72d_batsuit2.jpg

Batman takes a bullet to the head, it bounces off.

Try again.

I was talking about to his face (and with no armor indicating he's human). He has been shot with the bullet not bouncing off though. Exactly why he dodges them like any other street.

Originally posted by Juntai
http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc138&image=72d_batsuit2.jpg

Batman takes a bullet to the head, it bounces off.

Try again.

😂

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I was talking about to his face (and with no armor indicating he's human). He has been shot with the bullet not bouncing off though. Exactly why he dodges them like any other street.
What's your take? Batman with 2 days of prep vs Spiderman?
How does it play out?

Originally posted by Juntai
What's your take? Batman with 2 days of prep vs Spiderman?
How does it play out?
Oh I already said... Bat's has the advantage.

However in your opinion, what would he bring to the fight? I don't see him using anything too extreme against someone low-mid level like Spiderman.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Oh I already said... Bat's has the advantage.

However in your opinion, what would he bring to the fight? I don't see him using anything too extreme against someone low-mid level like Spiderman.

I reckon that Bats as part of his prep, would look at news footage of Spiderman in action and quickly deduce that he has spidersense. He would then rig up a multi frequency device to send out multi frequency signals to confuse/overload Pete's Spidersense. This could work as overloading Spiderman's spidersense has incapacited him before.

Apparently he doesn't even need the prep, as he can take heavy blows from the like of Superman/Wonderwoman/mongul and others that are MANY times stronger than Spider-man.

Sometimes i think people make these Spite threads knowingly!!

Lol at puny punches from Spider-man.

🙄

Originally posted by Juk3n
Apparently he doesn't even need the prep, as he can take heavy blows from the like of Superman/Wonderwoman/mongul and others that are MANY times stronger than Spider-man.

Sometimes i think people make these Spite threads knowingly!!

Lol at puny punches from Spider-man.

🙄

Yeah ridiculous, I know. I would like to know how Bats beats up Spiderman with no prep. For me, in that scenario Bruce gets a right kicking off Mr.Parker-although I admit with prep i reckon he gets 6/10.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Apparently he doesn't even need the prep, as he can take heavy blows from the like of Superman/Wonderwoman/mongul and others that are MANY times stronger than Spider-man.

Sometimes i think people make these Spite threads knowingly!!

Lol at puny punches from Spider-man.

🙄

I wasn't suggesting it'd be completely ineffectual. I gave examples of a great range of characters with super-strength and enhanced speed, some a little less than, some greater, some much greater than Spiderman, to prove the point that the physical advantages are nothing he hasn't encountered, felt, or overcome, when it was suggested a half-assed blow from Spiderman would simply kill him. Which doesn't line up well with his showings at all.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Oh I already said... Bat's has the advantage.

However in your opinion, what would he bring to the fight? I don't see him using anything too extreme against someone low-mid level like Spiderman.

He wouldn't have to use anything too extreme, simply rigging the battlefield with enough that allows him choose the tempo of the battle should be enough in most scenarios.

If we're talking tech, there's a lot of small things that can weigh in to big advantages that he carries on him, or in some scenarios, bring things that offer nearly an 'instant win', which is often the case in a comic scenario where Batman is prepped correctly.