Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Exactly why featwars are a bad way to argue and are entirely circular. I could use Firelord, Strange, Magneto, FF, Xmen, Hulk, Titania, etc. All of the high stories of Spiderman, and show Batman have problems with guys like the Huge Batclone in the Father/Son Arc. Or his original enemies like Penguin, etc. We both know that these characters have taken "far worse" it's what they do as heroes.Feats have their purpose but simply saying what happens and not taking the character's abilities into consideration that have been established leads to these types of arguments. A big problem here on this forum.
Common sense tells us that Batman isn't pulletproof and that a bullet to the head will kill him, Spiderman generates much more force than a bullet. He has prep here which gives him the advantage.
This. you can bring up all the feats you want, but at the end of the day, Batman is still human. a SKILLED human, no doubt, but still human. That's the point of the character. Start giving him superhuman abilities and you sort of lose the point of what makes batman compelling in the first place.
That being said, no amount of skill or willpower is going to allow batman to survive the equivalent of a tractor trailer to the face if he gets hit. And spiderman needs to do this ONCE. it could potentially be two or three or four of these.
Yes, there are ridiculous instances of batman taking shots from people like mongul, but you're being really, REALLY disingenuous if you don't think those feats belong SQUARELY in the same category as spiderman KOing firelord or knocking out the hulk with superspeed punches.
Such feats exist, but they're serious, SERIOUS outliers and no one should reasonably takes them seriously as a gauge of what the character can do.