Kain runs a Gauntlet

He just woke up you mean.....still does not back him up being any quicker at any time.

Find me some vids to counter my claim please, show me M2 doing things instantly on a whim.

And m2 was not just born at 2.13, he was beaten by obvious attacks again and again, the sort that if his body could react at the speed of his mind (super computer) should allow him to escape. Obvioulsy this is not hte case.

Originally posted by Burning thought
YouTube video

0:24.5-0.26.5

2 seconds to break a glass container about his height.

at 0.54 M2 is seen glowing, presumerably started before we see him since he is already powering up and by 0.56/57 he has cracked a couple of tubes...hardly impressive tbh, its not until 1.01 he unleashes a great deal of power, which makes me belive he has to concentrate for a fair deal before he deals any major damage.

at 2.13 he is hit by a ball that is a display that obvioulsy his reaction time is not as impressive as one would want it to be.

Your first two examples were when he was born. He had lived for about a minute when he accomplished those two feats. Giovanni and him both agreed that he had not developed his powers at that point.

at 2.13 he is hit by a ball that is a display that obvioulsy his reaction time is not as impressive as one would want it to be.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
an epic durability feat, that be. It didn't even hurt him, what's Kain's sword going to do?

Able to survive explosion based damage not slicing of an unkown damage is not a epic feat of durability.

Originally posted by Phantom Miria
[b]Your first two examples were when he was born. He had lived for about a minute when he accomplished those two feats. Giovanni and him both agreed that he had not developed his powers at that point. [/B]

He was alive bofore that period, arguably fully grown, this still as I said before does not back him up being any faster.

So I will w8 patiently until you provide several M2 feats of instant power of a high degree, since so far, he seems to move at this speed consistently.

Firstly, it still makes him faster than Kain, even if your entire claim wasn't utter crap.

Secondly, no, he'd never been awake prior to that. That was the first thing he ever did. This is like you dropping out of your mom, and being a master martial artist, just a tad unlikely.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Firstly, it still makes him faster than Kain, even if your entire claim wasn't utter crap.

Secondly, no, he'd never been awake prior to that. That was the first thing he ever did. This is like you dropping out of your mom, and being a master martial artist, just a tad unlikely.

Showing M2 move slower than the instant you claim he does is utter crap? lol, probably to your argument but to mine it works perfectly until Miria can get a "adult" or more "learned" M2 list o showings.

no, Kain can teleport and slash 5 soldiers in one move, M2 will still be too slow by about a second, maybe 1.5

Nothing alike, m2 did not have to learn how to use his powers, merely according to Mira learn how to use them better. Either way he was still slower

Your entire argument is "omg he got hit in a movie".

Hit by /Mew/.

So, you've shown him, wake up for the first time, havign never used his powers before, and with no clue who or what he is, blow up an island.

Then, you show him being hit by the very beign he was cloned after. You have no argument.

Hell, even in the opening scene of that video when he's just been newly born, there are instances of instant power use.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Your entire argument is "omg he got hit in a movie".

Hit by /Mew/.

So, you've shown him, wake up for the first time, havign never used his powers before, and with no clue who or what he is, blow up an island.

Then, you show him being hit by the very beign he was cloned after. You have no argument.

Hell, even in the opening scene of that video when he's just been newly born, there are instances of instant power use.

So? thats his class of power as a Pokemon, ive seen similiar things in the cartoons from most Pokemon, their just evolved or w/e and their already using great powers.

And I show you him being hit by an obvious ball of energy, its nothing to do with who threw it at all, it was obvious, it crossed the screen in like half a second, if his reaction time was of a Supercomputer then this does not avail him at all.

He had already started psychic power usage, there were a couple of instantces where he simply started at an object after charging his power and they blew up in about half a second, a few imobile crumbling walls.

Ive shown him take too long to defeat Kain, thats all I need, ive shown his supercomputer mind means nothing in this argument as well.

He also had pretty much instant moves even in control of areas that he wasn't in.

what will kain's tele do when mewtwo can do the same thing anyway?

If you honestly believe Kain can beat MewTwo, you're dillusional. 😬

You've proved nothing, your argument holds no water, and your proof contradicts itself, hell. One of the things you highlighted is a durability feat which will disallow Kain from even hurting MewTwo.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If you honestly believe Kain can beat MewTwo, you're dillusional. 😬

You've proved nothing, your argument holds no water, and your proof contradicts itself, hell. One of the things you highlighted is a durability feat which will disallow Kain from even hurting MewTwo.

Yes a few cute little desperate statements and words, admit your argument is destroyed or actually make an argument, i have no time for trolls or baiters especially with Phantom who seems to know vaslty more than you do anyway.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
He also had pretty much instant moves even in control of areas that he wasn't in.

what will kain's tele do when mewtwo can do the same thing anyway?

Because Kain will have the advantage of teleporting next to a M2 who is concentrating on other powers, and apprently, he cannot teleport in canon according to phantom.

I love when you try to pretend you've got the upperhand in an argument, when you're the sole defender of your view point, and have no actual evidence to back it up. My argument was destroyed? By what, you highlighting one of MewTwo's durability feats? G.G., you lose, sir.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I love when you try to pretend you've got the upperhand in an argument, when you're the sole defender of your view point, and have no actual evidence to back it up. My argument was destroyed? By what, you highlighting one of MewTwo's durability feats? G.G., you lose, sir.

The sole defender of a view point? so what? I could be more correct than anyone on here, I have shown actual evidence unlike you with your bare bone statements and being told your wrong by your own team mates (instant global weather manip ftw!). ALL you have is the number advantage on your side of the argument, otherwise I have the actual evidence,logic, argument and I have not even had to sink so low as to sit there and simply blabber "zomg your argument holds no water, you must be delusional!" rather than make an actual argument.

Lol, you always claim "I could be more right!!11", but you never are.

You've shown no evidence, you've made claims and attempted to take things out of context. You highlighted a durability feat, trying to turn it into MewTwo's slow.

Hell, I don't care, pick one. MewTwo wins eitherway. Either Kain has nothing that'll hurt him, or Kain doesn't touch him.

Oh wait, Kain doesn't touch him anyway because MewTwo's already shredded him with TK. haermm

"KAIN TELEPORTZ!!!11oneeleventwobecauseIfeellikeit!1"

annnd then..? Ohwait, he's already had his molecular structure desconstructed?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lol, you always claim "I could be more right!!11", but you never are.

You've shown no evidence, you've made claims and attempted to take things out of context. You highlighted a durability feat, trying to turn it into MewTwo's slow.

Hell, I don't care, pick one. MewTwo wins eitherway. Either Kain has nothing that'll hurt him, or Kain doesn't touch him.

Oh wait, Kain doesn't touch him anyway because MewTwo's already shredded him with TK. haermm

"KAIN TELEPORTZ!!!11oneeleventwobecauseIfeellikeit!1"

annnd then..? Ohwait, he's [b]already had his molecular structure desconstructed? [/B]

Sorry mister but you claimed global weather manip was instant, I said otherwise and Miria agrees with me who is far more knowledgable than you are...so you lose...

I have shown no evidence yet you blabber on about how I have shown M2 a durability feat, how if ive shown no evidence? in the end your just making statements, you cannot actually outline anything like i did using logic and intellect you just blabber "butz ive got more people on my side lolz!", climb off the bandwagon and stop contradicting yourself...so you lose again...

youve yet to show durability of m2, or a capabiltiy of surviving anything Kain has...

Now...please pull yourself together, stop ranting and raving and relax, then try and create a mature and direct argument backed by evidence, not another blubbering whimper.

M2 cannot change his molecuour structure if hes already teleported faster than M2 can react/use powers against.

what does kain have that can hurt mewtwo? inquiring minds want to know

Any of his magic, M2 shield probably does not percive it as I dont think theres magic thats hit his shield, iven ever heard of it ofc but ime open to evidence if it has.

kains sword would do fine anyway, so far ive seen no real feat of major durabiliy to overcome 30+ tons of strength pushing an almost indestructable blade into you and his shield is not up passively or all the time.

And as I said in the other thread, Kain can mind control, I have not seen M2 show resistence to having his mind invaded.

And what about blood? Kain could drain M2 dry in an instant.

If a machine desgined to destroy MewTwo's DNA couldn't do it, why would Kain be able to affect his blood? By the way, by this point, MEwTwo's already killed Kain. /thread.

Well first because Kain uses magic, an art M2 has little knowledge of, nor would he know how to defend himself against its effects, therefore he could not defend himself as his blood pours from his body.

Kain could kill/defeat M2 in so many diffrent ways, the only question is what one he will choose.

lol mewtwo's mind will never be controlled by kain. mewtwo mind is too powerful.
30tons of strength? proof please
since when do pokemon have blood?
if galen marek and tk kain why would mewtwo not be able to? galen isnt near the top of the star wars food chain. and mewtwo's psychic abilities would make luke skywalker blush.
from what i have heard of kain he isnt a push over but he isnt touching mewtwo.