Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Umm...YesAccording to the anime and Daizenshuu, genius. 👆
Hey! I'm still waiting for those scans showing Vegeto as a multiversal or even universal threat. Did you think I just forgot?
Not unless the thread maker specifies and even then the manga still takes precedence considering its the authors word..and the author reserves the right update and possible recton shit when they want: we've been over this already.
SSJ Gogeta... this is for you buddy. Enjoy.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/goku-vs-superman-why-goku-would-win
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Hey! I'm still waiting for those scans showing Vegeto as a multiversal or even universal threat. Did you think I just forgot?Not unless the thread maker specifies and even then the manga still takes precedence considering its the authors word..and the author reserves the right update and possible recton shit when they want: we've been over this already.
Hey! Did you forget? "Anime cannon =/= manga cannon". Either way, Vegetto is at least multi-galaxy level according to the scan I posted. I've already said it though. DBZ episode 255, about 18 minutes in. Dende: If he keeps this up, his power output crossing the dimensions will cause a collapse!; Supreme Kai: Oh no! If this keeps up, Majin Buu will destroy all of creation!; Vegetto: What is he, nuts? He's going to destroy the entire universe if he keeps this up! This has gotten out of hand!
The thread maker used a movie special as cannon, i.e. he's using anime cannon. 👆
BTW, the Daizenshuu was made by Akira Toriyama to correct the manga series, and explain the anime, making it the most reliable source of cannon. 👆
Originally posted by carver9
SSJ Gogeta... this is for you buddy. Enjoy.http://www.screwattack.com/news/goku-vs-superman-why-goku-would-win
lol, I've actually seen this before. In fact, it's one of the things I like to refer to often in those kinds of debates.
Fine at least post a link and or time to a video clip...yes I'll compromise with you that much. You said Vegeto was a multiversal threat so it shouldn't be that hard to prove right. Again burden of proof is on you, stop dodging that fact.
Thread maker had a video clip...and was subsequently proven wrong IIRC while using said anime canon. You're move dude.
Also since you're so hell bent on referring to the Daizenshuu as a grounds for feats, point me out a specific page, paragraph, sentence, pic, anything from it that would honestly beat Z. Is any of this a problem?
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Fine at least post a link and or time to a video clip...yes I'll compromise with you that much. You said Vegeto was a multiversal threat so it shouldn't be that hard to prove right. Again burden of proof is on you, stop dodging that fact.Thread maker had a video clip...and was subsequently proven wrong IIRC while using said anime canon. You're move dude.
Also since you're so hell bent on referring to the Daizenshuu as a grounds for feats, point me out a specific page, paragraph, sentence, pic, anything from it that would honestly beat Z. Is any of this a problem?
I already told you when it happened, just look up the episode. I have the dragon boxes, so I just know that's when it was said.
I didn't look at any of the previous pages, but what does that have to do with this? If it was stated, which it was, then it's cannon, to at least the anime.
Like? The Daizenshuu supports many things in the anime, it doesn't simply say "Vegetto could beat Z from Tenchi Muyo because he can destroy reality". Just watch the episode. Z doesn't possess the power of matter manipulation, which is why he lost to Tenchi even though he had two more wings than him. Buuhan was stated by the anime to be able to destroy reality itself by screaming to cause dimensions to collapse. This is very similar in fact to how the Chousin had to be careful not to exert too much power to avoid breaking the third dimension. VERY similar in fact. If you can't find the episode then I can look for it, but I've already told you the episode, episode name and rough time to watch. Just find it yourself.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I already told you when it happened, just look up the episode. I have the dragon boxes, so I just know that's when it was said.I didn't look at any of the previous pages, but what does that have to do with this? If it was stated, which it was, then it's cannon, to at least the anime.
Like? The Daizenshuu supports many things in the anime, it doesn't simply say "Vegetto could beat Z from Tenchi Muyo because he can destroy reality". Just watch the episode. Z doesn't possess the power of matter manipulation, which is why he lost to Tenchi even though he had two more wings than him. Buuhan was stated by the anime to be able to destroy reality itself by screaming to cause dimensions to collapse. This is very similar in fact to how the Chousin had to be careful not to exert too much power to avoid breaking the third dimension. VERY similar in fact. If you can't find the episode then I can look for it, but I've already told you the episode, episode name and rough time to watch. Just find it yourself.
Burden of proof is on you
You're the one who mentioned the thread maker using anime originally or do you need me to pull that post up for you too.
Again burden of proof is on you. If you can't back up a claim that you support then you're wrong unless someone else happens to have one on demand. Stop avoiding this fact.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Burden of proof is on youYou're the one who mentioned the thread maker using anime originally or do you need me to pull that post up for you too.
Again burden of proof is on you. If you can't back up a claim that you support then you're wrong unless someone else happens to have one on demand. Stop avoiding this fact.
I meant that I didn't look at any pages but the first and the ones I've posted on.
I've already given you the proof. I don't live at your house, so I can't hold your hand and turn on the video for you. If you're too stupid or lazy to look up a single episode of a series you're arguing about, then stop arguing about it. 👆
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I meant that I didn't look at any pages but the first and the ones I've posted on.I've already given you the proof. I don't live at your house, so I can't hold your hand and turn on the video for you. If you're too stupid or lazy to look up a single episode of a series you're arguing about, then stop arguing about it. 👆
What proof? You only told me that the anime and a book had the feats you were talking about. Yes it is your job to do that if you have a claim you want to support. If you claim there is an episode that supports something and someone else asks for clarity, then you're expected to pull said video or scan up. So yeah either a scan,video or your wrong and the argument can be dropped, take your pick.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
The DBZ retard brigade has seriously resurrected this? And all they have is appealing to non-canon shit, making claims of speed feats without established distances or timeframes, and still no evidence that anything in DBZ could ever possibly have a chance of getting past even a single LHW.Pathetic.
Originally posted by carver9
SSJ Gogeta... this is for you buddy. Enjoy.http://www.screwattack.com/news/goku-vs-superman-why-goku-would-win
"Akira Toriyama would of never wrote that if he didn't mean it"
lol prove it.
Because you guys use travelling speed as your measure.
Read an actual good article: http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/my-true-power-blog-goku-speed-1460662/
Note he makes a mistake in his analysis, he uses radius instead of half the circumference, this however makes Goku even faster then he thought.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I read a bit more of that, and he actually had the balls to use Death of Superman against him.Lol, what a moron.
lol, Ikr? Low-balling Goku because of a few small feats is completely fine, but doing the same to Superman?
Complete BS, right?
God, I phuckin' hate superfag fanboys.