Batman vs. John McClane

Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
Saying it was Bale means we are talking about Batman Begins AND Dark Knight.

ITA.

However, it needed to be said which version we are debating.

I mean, BB Bat has less experience than TDK Bats, yes?

'Tis exactly why I pitted him against DH1 McClane.

I just forgot to specify.

Sorry. ermmsrug

Originally posted by Scythe
So, I'm confused, who sees who first?

They see each other, like two strangers in the night, exchanging glances, wondering what are the chances.

Is it just McClane vs Batman. Are Gruber and his gang present? Does McClane know Batman is inside the building? Vice Versa?

Either way I was using BB Bat from the start.

Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
Either way I was using BB Bat from the start.

Then he probably gets shot in the face, as he's still pretty green.

Originally posted by Kaibs
First of all I'm not getting "pissy" i was half ass joking. Secondly you're restricting McClane to one movies worth of feats to defend against Bale's 2 movies?

I, too, was joking. Calm down. I didn't mean hostility.

We are dealing with BB Batman against DH1 McClane. I admit that I f*cked up by not clarifying this.

Originally posted by Scythe
So, I'm confused, who sees who first?

Both see each other simultaneously. Batman thinks that John is a terrorist, and John is just thinking "WTF?!?"

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Is it just McClane vs Batman. Are Gruber and his gang present? Does McClane know Batman is inside the building? Vice Versa?

Now I know TDK Bats isnt allowed but in TDK he didnt know the clowns were the Hostages even though they had guns in thier hands.

With that im sure BB bats wouldnt know that John McClane is a Cop when he sees him in the Building with an Automatic weapon.

It doesnt matter to me I dont see how you're going to defend McClane shooting batman in the face and him being okay after it. McClane has way better accuracy and is way more mobile than any of those people were in the first film with guns. Unlike the people in BB McClane actually knows how to fight. (By people i am referring to the gangs not the League of Shadows)

But Bats still bested the LOS ninjas, yes?

And the LOS nijas are leagues better than mere street brutes, no?

Who is to say McClane has better accuracy based on the First DH? Did you see him at a shooting range in a deleted scene? All we can say is he got lucky with the shots.

Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
Who is to say McClane has better accuracy based on the First DH? Did you see him at a shooting range in a deleted scene? All we can say is he got lucky with the shots.

I love you. heartbeat

thats like saying batman just gets lucky when he blocks a punch. 😬

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
thats like saying batman just gets lucky when he blocks a punch. 😬

we HAVE seen BB Bats train and I dont think THATS luck

McClane is a police officer you cant become an official police officer unless you undergo training on how to aim and shoot on the fly. of course hes trained.

Originally posted by Impediment
But Bats still bested the LOS ninjas, yes?

And the LOS nijas are leagues better than mere street brutes, no?

That was H2H not Batman against McClane with a pistol and semi automatic machine gun.

McClane has a four leaf clover stuck up his ass, says I.

Originally posted by Robtard
They see each other, like two strangers in the night, exchanging glances, wondering what are the chances.

Sounds saucy.

So if they both see eachother at the same time, it becomes an opinionated decision of who shoots/throws batarang first. It's like Greedo all over again!!! FML!!

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
McClane is a police officer you cant become an official police officer unless you undergo training on how to aim and shoot on the fly. of course hes trained.

TY and I now love you.

Originally posted by Impediment
McClane has a four leaf clover stuck up his ass, says I.

Something you should also consider... His luck will definitely play into this as well. Which you and I both know he has up his ass as you just said.

Originally posted by Kaibs
That was H2H not Batman against McClane with a pistol and semi automatic machine gun.

Ninja combat is movement + evasion + attack = kill the mug.

Thug combat? I dunno. Swoop in. Scare the prick. Drop him.

I still say that the Bat could, at the very least, maneuver around a steam of auto fire, but he would still, I have to say, take a few hits. He is NOT faster than a speeding bullet.