Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
just out of curiosity why are you keeping score? youre not committing an appeal to majority fallacy are you?
Originally posted by Kaibs
If we're really going with votes then im sure Bats will win. As there are way more McClane haters than Batman haters.
Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
Im just keeping tabs.your assuming because I think Batman is better in the Situation that I like him better then McClane? No McClane is bad ass Even in DH 1 but the Fact is Batman is better situtated for that situation.
Nope I wasnt assuming that on you as I don't know you to my knowledge even though im sure you've done it more than im saying you just recently starting posting in the movie forums so i havent got the chance to see if you do or dont hate McClane. Im saying htat because Im well aware of the haters of McClane.
but anyway I still say Batman. Batman goes in ready to go up against Terrorist... Through the entire thing McClane is still wondering what the hell is happening and im sure seeing a guy in a black bat suit will make it worse.
That aside, if it was Hand to Hand then Batman wins... but thats not the case...
If McClane had a clear shot and Batman had no where to take cover then McClane... but thats not the case either. There are plenty of places to hide and take cover from gun fire or even McCane would of died early in the movie.
Yes it did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFRSruZyWGc
Theres a few open places in the short scenes shown lol
Originally posted by Robtard
Batman indeed is more skilled, but a machine will make things 'deader' faster and easier than a batarang or H2H.LoL, no. Give McClane an SUV, Batman hasn't a chance.
I think you misunderstand: One batman punch is just as powerful as a one SUV crash from McClane. 😆
I'm joking, of course. I was parodizing the McClane fanboyism with an absurd Batman fanboyish statement.
But, in reality, McClane will empty his clip many times over before ever hitting Batman. At that, Batman's armor will take that same shot, many times over.
Originally posted by Robtard
He wasn't doing that. No need to be the @sshole.
It was a joke. And, yes, he was. You seem to have gained a follower, Robtard. You seem to have taken kindly to him, as well. That's cute.
Originally posted by Kaibs
Not at all Just because I defended his McClane post means nothign of the sort
1. I was joking. No harm intended. It was more for entertainment than to insult. If you were offended, I apologize.
Originally posted by Kaibs
unlike you it seems you're pole jockin Scarlet quite a bit.
2. I fail to see how this is a bad thing. naughty
😆
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
regular police officers are trained to have at least basic proficiency with all automatic and semi-automatic weapons...
No. This is rubbish.
1. It varies from municipalities.
2. Most certainly not have proficiency with "all automatic and semi-automatic weapons."
3. Very few get hands on with semi-automatic assault rifles.
4. What do regular New York street cops get? That will settle this little debate, quick fast and in a hurry.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
just out of curiosity why are you keeping score? youre not committing an appeal to majority fallacy are you?
To settle where everyone stands as many people have voiced their opinions. It's kind of difficult to see this.
And, it is fallacious to assume that what she's doing is fallacious. Here's why:
This is already an ad populum debate. Almost every single one of these are that kind of debate. Very few end up with physics being used, respective movie universe law, physiology, etc. Those debates are usually limited to myself and Jaden. 😐
The majority of these vs. threads are reduced to ad populum: many jump on a band wagon if it has enough support. If both sides have adequate support, they jump on the bandwagon for those people who they like the most. Couple that with people going for whichever character they like the most, if the debate is close enough.
Originally posted by Kaibs
If we're really going with votes then im sure Bats will win. As there are way more McClane haters than Batman haters.
No, that's not the case at all. There are far more McClane fanboys here in this movie vs. forum, I assure you.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
your wife cries out other peoples names during sex doesnt she?
No.
And you're still sore from the Ninja debate, and the Ozy debates. You do know that you can't win them all, don't you?
Originally posted by dadudemon
4. What do regular New York street cops get? That will settle this little debate, quick fast and in a hurry.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/training_nypd/firearm_tatics.shtml
according to this regular police officers do not receiving training with automatic weapons. however it is available to special units.
so has it been stated what type of police officer he is specifically? according to wiki hes police officer as well as a detective leading me to believe hes somewhat more important?
What do you think?
And, it is fallacious to assume that what she's doing is fallacious.
thats kind of irrelevant considering i never assumed such no?
No.And you're still sore from the Ninja debate, and the Ozy debates. You do know that you can't win them all, don't you? [/B]
what? not a single smiley? seems i struck a nerve. shrug
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/training_nypd/firearm_tatics.shtmlaccording to this regular police officers do not receiving training with automatic weapons. however it is available to special units.
Cool.
You're a much bigger person than most that post here. Very few people will go out of their way to prove themselves right, only to discover they were wrong, and still admit it after finding it.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
[so has it been stated what type of police officer he is specifically? according to wiki hes police officer as well as a detective leading me to believe hes somewhat more important?
He said to Al that he was a regular policeman or something. But, being a detective doesn't grant you special weapons access.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
What do you think?
I think McClane is a very intelligent man who adapated quickly to his situation and made it seem like he had been using automatics for a while.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
thats kind of irrelevant considering i never assumed such no?
She admitted, before that (This "that" refers to my post to you), that that's what she's doing. Therefore, what you said would apply.
Unless her answer of yes somehow changes what you meant. Go ahead, I'll listen to your reasoning of why you didn't assume that if she answered yes, she was committing an ad populum fallacy. No reason for me to jump to conclusions just yet.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
what? not a single smiley? seems i struck a nerve. shrug
I don't use smilies for each and every response. But if you want to pretend that my witty comback was butthurt to make yourself feel better, that's cool.
Looking back, I should have added the straight face smilie. 😐
Originally posted by dadudemon
Cool.You're a much bigger person than most that post here. Very few people will go out of their way to prove themselves right, only to discover they were wrong, and still admit it after finding it.
the worse that can happen if im wrong is that youll bring it up a couple weeks later. 😐
He said to Al that he was a regular policeman or something. But, being a detective doesn't grant you special weapons access.
probably true.
I think McClane is a very intelligent man who adapated quickly to his situation and made it seem like he had been using automatics for a while.
i dunno. ive used a few automatics and if youre not used to using one the recoil will wreck you. the fact that mcclane handled the weapon as soon as he picked it up as well as he did imo speaks for his experience with automatic guns.
She admitted, before that (This "that" refers to my post to you), that that's what she's doing. Therefore, what you said would apply.
Unless her answer of yes somehow changes what you meant. Go ahead, I'll listen to your reasoning of why you didn't assume that if she answered yes, she was committing an ad populum fallacy. No reason for me to jump to conclusions just yet.
she just said that she was keeping tabs... i was wondering if she was going to use it as a reason for batman winning.
I don't use smilies for each and every response. But if you want to pretend that my witty comback was butthurt to make yourself feel better, that's cool.
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its kind of important for my ego. i dont have any friends in real life and no one likes me so i have to convince myself that my existence has a point by being awesome on the internet. so id appreciate if youd just lament victory to me.