Originally posted by Lord LucienIt's a drawing called Master Flood, which is what I picture Master Chief would look like if he was infected by the Flood. Here's the proper image.
I would have commented on it but I can't make out what it is.
Originally posted by Lord LucienIt's a drawing called Master Flood, which is what I picture Master Chief would look like if he was infected by the Flood. Here's the proper image.
I would have commented on it but I can't make out what it is.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
My whole point was that a lightsaber is described as a weapon with a beam of pure concentrated energy that cut through anything save for another lightsaber, therefore Bane shouldn't be able to grab it.
Hence: orbalisks and the ability to reflect bullets.
On his hands, see below...
And saying that those were his only weaknesses could very well be hyperbole.
Even with these precautions, she would occasionally notice someone giving her a second glance. There was something about her, a hard edge to the way she moved and even the way she stood, that set her apart from others. Yet it was far easier for her to remain inconspicuous than it was for her Master. Over the past decade, the or-balisks that had attached themselves to Bane's torso had spread until they covered virtually his entire body. Only his feet, hands, and face remained free of the infestation, and only because he took extreme precautions: He wore special gloves and boots at all times, and when he slept he donned a special helmet that resembled a cage, meant to keep the parasites from growing over his face.
I mean how often does someone's hand (as opposed to their wrist) actually come into play as a target in SW (except one time for Luke just to show his robotic hand)? Its always an arm or wrist that gets cut by a saber. He might very well have orbies on the tops of his hands, but his palms? He wouldn't even be able to close his hand and make a fist if that were the case.
So no one has still yet proved that his hands are protected. Its all just been speculation. [/B]
You have yet to address this though:
mattHe may not need to grab it in RoT he uses his forearm to 'bat the blade away' it would be easier to dothat.
He does this:
Bane swatted the Jedi's golden lightsaber aside with his orbalisk-encrusted left forearm, then removed his foe's head from his body with his lightsaber.
So: Bane can't physically grab the lightsaber with his hand. No. Bane can use his body to deflect lightsaber blades though.
And bullets would bounce off a saber blade.
Originally posted by Red NemesisFrom the OS:Except that we clearly see it interact with normal matter in such a way that proves resistance is present. If there was a material such that the resistance was perfect then it would be lightsaber proof.
Hence: orbalisks and the ability to reflect bullets.[/B]
As for the EU entry:
"Once unleashed, the power channels through a positively charged continuous energy lens at the center of the handle. The beam then arcs circumferentially back to a negatively charged high energy flux aperture. A superconductor transfers the power from the flux aperture to the power cell. As a result, a lightsaber only expends power when its blade cuts through something. So efficient is the blade, that it does not radiate heat unless it comes into contact with something."
"The blade's color depends on the nature of the jewel it springs from, and while its length is fixed in the case of a single-jewel lightsaber, lightsabers equipped with multiple crystals can have their length varied by rotating a knob that allows the focusing crystal activator to subtly modify the refraction pattern between the gems.'
Now, the second "EU" paragraph affirms further that it's a beam or energy, which the length can be varied at anytime. You can't do that with a solid object.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
On his hands, see below...
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EDIT: I said he could use his forearms to bounce the saber off. I never went againt that. As far as the bullets, as we know of them on Earth, I think they would burn up rather than be deflected.
You just helped me with that... thanks.
That was sort of the point. I'm a helper.
You can't do that with a solid object.
Could you point me to that so that I may formally retract the statement? It seemed to me like I was pointing out the canon evidence of how lightsabers actually act in the mythos.
Because, you know, the evidence we have to look at supports what I said. The evidence you provided does not really comment on the matter except for the line about cutting through "almost anything." The list of things it doesn't cut is exclusive, but definitely a relevant set.
If anything you've helped me (thank you) by proving the nature of the interaction between the blade [of energy i guess] and normal matter.
Originally posted by Red NemesisYou didn't say it directly, but the implication was that it was bound by the same physics as a sword, for the lack of a better example.
That was sort of the point. I'm a helper.I said the blade was a solid object? How silly of me. 😂
Could you point me to that so that I may formally retract the statement? It seemed to me like I was pointing out the canon evidence of how lightsabers actually act in the mythos.
Because, you know, the evidence we have to look at supports what I said. The evidence you provided does not really comment on the matter except for the line about cutting through "almost anything." The list of things it doesn't cut is exclusive, but definitely a relevant set.
If anything you've helped me (thank you) by proving the nature of the interaction between the blade [of energy i guess] and normal matter.
My ENTIRE point, was that Bane could not grab a saber. So despite the fun little banter we're sharing, you've ultimately agreed with my point. Of course SW physics and logic don't equal that of our own, so I will admit that the flashlight analogy was not the best choice. So I'll take that particular example back, but my point stands.
I agree with your point that Bane can't grab the saber, since his hands weren't covered. I'm not entirely sure that he couldn't grab the saber if they WERE covered.
The only point I would say is agreeable is that we don't know HOW the physics of a lightsaber works. In TPM, the fact that the lightsaber didn't just immediately slice through the blastdoor , and that QUI Gonn was pushing very hard on the saber can only mean that a lightsaber CAN meet resistance other than from another saber.
What are thudbugs made out of that lightsabers deflect them rather than burn them up? What is beskar, that it can resist lightsabers?
FOr that matter, why does a blade of light seem to carely roughly the same weight as the hilt of the saber?
I also, still think that the entire concept of swinging a lightsaber HARD is kinda pointless if the blade actually contains a 0 in the mass department. If i'm wrong on that, i'd love to hear why. It is something that has bothered me, since for any force to exist, a mass must be present. acceleration alone isn't enough.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
From the OS:
"When deactivated, a lightsaber appears as a polished metallic handle, about 30 centimeters long, lined with control studs. At the press of a button the energy contained within is liberated and forms as a shaft of [b]pure energy about a meter long. The saber hums and scintillates with a distinct sound. Its shimmering blade is capable of cutting through almost anything, save for the blade of another lightsaber."[/B]
You forgot to bold the almost anything part.
If lightsabers just go through everything like a flashlight, then how come beskar armor can stop it in its tracks? How come that blast door/big door in TPM could resist it? Why didn't it just go through like a flashlight?
The saber did go through the door like a flashlight... At 5:40 onwards The reason it takes so long to open the door when hes pulling in a circle is because he needs to go around the locking mechanism then when the blast door closes, the lightsaber isn't long enough to go all the way through.
Originally posted by mattatom
The saber did go through the door like a flashlight... At 5:40 onwards The reason it takes so long to open the door when hes pulling in a circle is because he needs to go around the locking mechanism then when the blast door closes, the lightsaber isn't long enough to go all the way through.
i wouldn't say like a flashlight, not at all, but.... it WAS much quicker than i remembered.
Originally posted by HewhoknowsallI didn't forget shit. The almost was referring to the part i did bold..."save for the blade of another lightsaber." And since that was not under the EU section, I added from the EU section the parts that I thought were relevant.
You forgot to bold the [B]almost anything part.If lightsabers just go through everything like a flashlight, then how come beskar armor can stop it in its tracks? How come that blast door/big door in TPM could resist it? Why didn't it just go through like a flashlight? [/B]
Also, being that it has no mass, swinging it harder wouldn't matter as it also says, "So efficient is the blade, that it does not radiate heat unless it comes into contact with something.".
So, once it touches something, it starts to radiate heat. It didn't say it was dependant on pressure or force against it. However, physics would dictate that the faster you swing the hilt, the faster the blade would travel. This wouldn't mean a "harder" hit as opposed to a "quicker" hit.
Oh, and I recalled my flashlight analogy already.