Originally posted by Robtard
The 300 did so well because of the unique landscape, where the Persian's massive numbers meant nothing; this isn't that location. It's 5,000+ to 1 in a massive battlefield.I can accept the rest being silly clowns and saying nonsense like "forcing pulling commanders and then mind tricking them", "flinging about boulders with impunity", "massive mind trick sweeps via microphones" etc., but not you.
Hey, someone wanted to argue semantics, so I completely kicked the semantic chair out form underneath that person. Still, we could "force speed" to the person, quickly make the suggestion, and be back in time to high five Yoda. You just don't like the idea that the Jedi have haxor powers that make some things just retarded like.
And, just because you don't like the idea that Yoda could easily turn a 1000lb rock into a massive telekinetic hammer, doesn't mean he can't do it. He quickly reacted and held up that massive metal column and tossed it aside. It weighed many tons. If he struggled under that weight, then it should be easy as hell for him to move around something many times lighter. AHA!
I just read some more anti-Star Wars sentiments.
Come on guys. I mean, really? Are you serious? You're just going to ignore the fact that Jedi routinely throw around hundreds of pounds of metal like they are nothing? That's just simply rediculous. Then, on top of that, you have one othe greatest force users of all time, Yoda, being demoted to BELOW even padawan's ability to move about hundreds of pounds of metal. That's beyond rediculous. Why the hell couldn't Yoda do it when it is absurdly within his ability? That's what I'd do. It's certainly be awesome and would be much more effective. Since he is versitile with multiple objects, I don't see why he couldn't just force push and pull around that boulder while also blocking any incoming arrows.
And, as EvilAngel intelligently pointed out, they Persians would shit their pants and call him a god.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Why would that be so difficult? The jedi force pushed heavy battle droids like they were nothing.
At close range a few at a time, sure.
And likewise there were times like with the buzzdroids, where they couldn't...... I think we remember Anakin taking that machinery in the face on that conveyor line in AOTC...
Force pushes/pulls (especially paired with the muchly cited foresight could have saved many of the Jedi killed during the purge...but it didnt.)
That just doesnt wash as a bankable, useable inifinite times, infalibale tactic/ability..
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
At close range a few at a time, sure.And likewise there were times like with the buzzdroids, where they couldn't...... I think we remember Anakin taking that machinery in the face on that conveyor line in AOTC...
Force pushes/pulls (especially paired with the muchly cited foresight could have saved many of the Jedi killed during the purge...but it didnt.)
That just doesnt wash as a bankable, useable inifinite times, infalibale tactic/ability..
1. We don't use PIS in these debates. Their powers come over into these versus debates.
2. Again, their "precognition" to sense when they were betrayed was greatly clouded by the dark side. They didn't see it coming. Not even Yoda could forsee it until a few moments before it started to happen...despite him sitting around all day meditating like a buddhist, trying to see teh futurez.
3. Since NONE of the persians are dark side force user on par with Sidious, AND, none of them are even force users, the idea that their forsight would be impared to the level it was against the Jedi Purge is rather rediculous. It's a non sequitor fallacy. (Committed quite a bit in these parts.)
4. Just because you don't like their power set, doesn't mean they don't have it.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I remember that young Jedi in ROTS wrecking shop against the Clones. He took out several before he got shot, and the Clones had blasters yo. No doubt most of the Jedi will be far better trained than him, and when one or more gets amongst the Persian archers, man.......
Indeed. None of the arrows would travel nearly as fast as a blaster bolt. Which is between 300-600 MPH, depending on which scene you want to look at. (You can look at the attack of the clones battle and some blaster bolts travel a few miles a second. Inconsistant. I use the Obi Wan versus Jang Fett Fight scene as the measure of speed.)
Originally posted by dadudemonObviously the more powerful blaster bolts travel faster?Indeed. None of the arrows would travel nearly as fast as a blaster bolt. Which is between 300-600 MPH, depending on which scene you want to look at. (You can look at the attack of the clones battle and some blaster bolts travel a few miles a second. Inconsistant. I use the Obi Wan versus Jang Fett Fight scene as the measure of speed.)
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
At close range a few at a time, sure.And likewise there were times like with the buzzdroids, where they couldn't...... I think we remember Anakin taking that machinery in the face on that conveyor line in AOTC...
Force pushes/pulls (especially paired with the muchly cited foresight could have saved many of the Jedi killed during the purge...but it didnt.)
That just doesnt wash as a bankable, useable inifinite times, infalibale tactic/ability..
Hey, if the Star Wars movie don't bother with worrying about consistency then we clearly don't have to either. There's no reason that i can see as to why the Jedi can't exploit their super powers all day and all night. The Persians have no defense what so ever against anything that the Jedi bring to the table (physically or supernatural).
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Obviously the more powerful blaster bolts travel faster?
Well......the clone troopers WERE carrying those blaster rifles and not pistols...if I remember correctly, but that doesn't account for the droids firing just as fast. It would be another example of PIS. (Which is what I was hinting at.)
I think the bolt in the trash compactor was only traveling at 60MPH. Then, you have the miles a second speeds in AotC.
Completely off-topic: Chev Chelios reminds me of Hank from the Madness Combat flash series. The dude just won't die. 😱