Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dodge. You know I'm gonna bury your bullshit argument yet again.I ask again: So in a sniper duel where they must stalk each other and kill, you think 47 wins?
Yes or no, simple.
Once again RJ is delusional. The only thing you've buried back then was your dignity with your ever changing conditions of the thread until the guy you wanted to win had every conceivable advantage. You're known for this.
Agent 47 was better back then as he is now, he might as well be a cartoon.
Originally posted by RobtardSo you think 47 can outstalk Swagger and kill him then.
Once again RJ is delusional. The only thing you've buried back then was your dignity with your ever changing conditions of the thread until the guy you wanted to win had every conceivable advantage. You're known for this.Agent 47 was better back then as he is now, he might as well be a cartoon.
K.
Wrong.
Swagger took on 3 CIA counter snipers who knew he was there and were actively searching for him too. 47? Took one shot at a non moving target. Swagger hit several moving targets. He took on a small army FFS.
There's more to sniping than taking long shots.
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, this thread, back in the day when DDM would shield RJ by trolling peeps who disagreed with RJ. THOSE WERE THE DAYS!
What you DON'T know is RJ and I argued the shit out of this thread before either of us started to really to post in it. That's pretty much what we did back in the day. Now, we don't argue about versus match-ups as much.
Also, my point still stands and it was a kick-ass point. 313
I'll concede this: Swagger would have to take a few shots to get used to that 4 mile gun due to the technology being so much different than the 2-mile guns we have these days. So, yeah, it's not as simple as Swagger just picking up the gun and shooting it. BUT...I'd say that since the gun was already calibrated to the 4 mile mark when it came on screen...any steady-handed Joe could have picked up the gun and made that same shot specifically because it "shot" where the cross-hairs were on the scope.
Originally posted by RobtardSee, this is where your dumbassery is showing. If Swagger knows 47 can shoot from that far away, you really think he is gonna reveal himself? No. Swagger is far better at stalking. He is a better all around sniper.
Swagger still takes one between the eyes from 2.48miles away. Thank you for playing; you lost, condolences.
47 calibrated the scope of his rifle so that all he had to do was center the crosshairs on the forehead of the Russian and pull the trigger. The Russian was standing in one spot the whole time, a spot where 47 knew he would be far in advance.
Swagger will be on the move, you twit. He won't be standing on a damn podium making a speech just begging to be shot.
Truth be told, Swagger's rifle is much more powerful than 47's, it's a .50 caliber Barrett. It's the most powerful sniper rifle in the world:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/118194/most_powerful_sniper_rifle_in_the_world/
Swagger was shown calibrating the scope of his Barrett to make a shot from beyond a mile. Not that hard to assume he can simply double up the math and enable his rifle to shoot even further than 47's. More powerful rifle>>>>>>>less powerful rifle. Besides, the following conversation between Swagger and Johnson proves Swagger is a better sniper:
Col. Johnson: "Your longest shots were never confirmed..."
Bob Lee Swagger: "That's because long shots generally go places you wouldn't wanna have to go afterwords to have to confirm 'em. Confirmation's deskposts' problem. You know what it takes to make a shot at that range? Everything comes into play that far. Humidity elevation, temp, winds, spin-drift. There's a 6-10 second flight time so you have to shoot it where the targets going to be. Even the coriolis effect, the spin of the earth comes into play. The President will be wearing body armor, that means a head shot. You believe there's a shooter involved capable of making this shot?"
You can spout off all day about 47 making a longer shot, but in the end, Swagger showed he is a better sniper in every possible way.
So, what i really wanna know is:
Share with the group.
Originally posted by dadudemon👆 Once the rifle was calibrated, hell, I could have made that shot.
What you DON'T know is RJ and I argued the shit out of this thread before either of us started to really to post in it. That's pretty much what we did back in the day. Now, we don't argue about versus match-ups as much.Also, my point still stands and it was a kick-ass point. 313
I'll concede this: Swagger would have to take a few shots to get used to that 4 mile gun due to the technology being so much different than the 2-mile guns we have these days. So, yeah, it's not as simple as Swagger just picking up the gun and shooting it. BUT...I'd say that since the gun was already calibrated to the 4 mile mark when it came on screen...any steady-handed Joe could have picked up the gun and made that same shot specifically because it "shot" where the cross-hairs were on the scope.
It's not like 47 was shown doing calculations in the fly and shooting moving targets that were firing grenades at him.
It's not like 47 inflicted 75% casualties on a force of over 100 men who were pursuing him over open ground.
It's not like 47 outstalked 3 CIA counter snipers.
Oh wait, Swagger did those things..........
"His last assignment went wrong. Put in unfriendly territory on a loan out left as expendable. Opposing forces sent an attack helicopter and a hundred man company. His best friend and spotter was killed. No official report."
"Ghost reports said he inflicted seventy percent casualties. The rest fled."
"The agency asset that left him there to die? Suddenly removed from the face of the earth two weeks after. They never laid it at Bob Lee's feet. He retired a week later."
"I guess Bob Lee didn't think he was expendable."
But hey, you're right, 47 could have totally done that. 👇
Originally posted by dadudemon
Not to use the real world but some of the big hitters in the Mafia world literally took out hundreds of targets during their "time".
Ill Duce, Boondock Saints.
You know, now that I think of it, 47 was never shown planning an assassination the way Swagger did. Swagger planned an assassination that could have killed the President of the United States. 47? Some Russian dude without near the security detail.
So really, Swagger is the better assassin. And the better sniper. I'll break it down for anyone who opposes this.
Anyone?