Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
so because 47 can take out targets on a whim
O'rly? He took Belikoff out on a whim? When his computer told him, about Belikoff, "The next target date has been moved up, the client wishes it to be public", 47 said "I've planned something more...subtle. I've made preparations."
He then was shown studying Belikoff on his computer. Next day, he capped him. He was never shown calibrating his rifle onsite. Obviously he scouted the site, saw the building 4 away, and set up a roost there. When it came down to kill time, all he had to do was center the crosshairs on Belikoff's forehead and pull the trigger.
Feel stupid yet?
and swagger needs to thoroughly plan it out makes him a better assassin? 😐
Let's see.....Killing the Russian....Killing the President of the United States....
Yeah......The latter is much more difficult.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Please, do break it down. I am incredibly intrigued how you came to this conclusion
Because Swagger is one of a handful of men in the world who can plan and execute an assassination on the President of the United States. 47 never showed that he is capable of doing this.
So really, what I should have said, is "Swagger is a better sniper assassin, potentially."
Originally posted by Lestov16
RJ's acting like planning out that assassination is a unique feat, but 47 would probably be able to effortlessly plot out that same assassination, probably an even more efficient one, in roughly the same time
It is a unique feat. Why would you say it isn't? Again, the conversation between Swagger and Johnson:
Col. Johnson: "Your longest shots were never confirmed..."
Bob Lee Swagger: "That's because long shots generally go places you wouldn't wanna have to go afterwords to have to confirm 'em. Confirmation's deskposts' problem. You know what it takes to make a shot at that range? Everything comes into play that far. Humidity elevation, temp, winds, spin-drift. There's a 6-10 second flight time so you have to shoot it where the targets going to be. Even the coriolis effect, the spin of the earth comes into play. The President will be wearing body armor, that means a head shot. You believe there's a shooter involved capable of making this shot?"
47 never displayed this knowledge about sniping.
Let's compare all sniping feats, shall we?
Range: 47 made a longer shot, no doubt there, but there's more to sniping than making long shots. Besides, the maximum range of Swagger's rifle is over 4 miles. Since Swagger was shown doing the calculations on a shot from over a mile out, he could easily do the math for a 4k shot. It's like going from 2 + 2=4 to 4 + 4=8.
Stealth/Stalking: Gimmee a break, Swagger pwns here. He is shown making shots ranging from 100 yards out to over a mile out. 47 made the longer shot because he had to, because he lacks the skill/stealth to get closer as Swagger did.
Other: "His last assignment went wrong. Put in unfriendly territory on a loan out left as expendable. Opposing forces sent an attack helicopter and a hundred man company. His best friend and spotter was killed. No official report."
"Ghost reports said he inflicted seventy percent casualties. The rest fled."
"The agency asset that left him there to die? Suddenly removed from the face of the earth two weeks after. They never laid it at Bob Lee's feet. He retired a week later."
"I guess Bob Lee didn't think he was expendable."
100 men and a heavily armored attack chopper. Swagger took out the chopper with a single shot, then inflicted 70% casualties on the men while retreating over 8 kilometers of unfamiliar territory.
Swagger has feats out the yazoo. 47? One feat. He shot a man who was standing still, who was not shooting back at him. The men Swagger shot were shooting back, usually hunting him. He took out 3 CIA counter snipers who were all hunting him. This alone makes him a better sniper.
But yeah, I'm just a rabid Swagger fanboy 🙄