The Original Hellfire Club vs X-Men

Originally posted by redhotrash
Kitty disrupts and destroys machinery when shes intangible. Pierce was rended into pieces by Shaw, so hes not above physical attacks.

Funny that you assume he has a way to counter them based on nothing at all. Also, if these nanites worked so quickly and were so effective, Shaw wouldnt have taken him apart the way he did. I think you are taking 1 or 2 showings and using them as gospel, as I rarely remember him using them.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Funny that you assume he has a way to counter them based on nothing at all.

Originally posted by redhotrash
if these nanites worked so quickly and were so effective Shaw wouldnt have taken him apart the way he did. I think you are taking 1 or 2 showings and using them as gospel, as I rarely remember him using them.

The reason he never used the nannites on shaw is becuase he already had shaw captured. The issue you are refferring to is the same arc in which pierce took out number of x-men using his nannite technology. He even had nannites pesifically designed to take out wolverine. Seems silly to assume he would not uses such abilities to his advantage no?

Shadowcat takes out Shaw via phasing into the ground or a wall. Colossus takes out Pierce via brawl. Marvel Girl takes out the White Queen via mindblast. Cyclops GOML's Leland. Wolverine deals with Wyngarde's illusions until he gets a kill shot or help from the others.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Shadowcat takes out Shaw via phasing into the ground or a wall. Colossus takes out Pierce via brawl. Marvel Girl takes out the White Queen via mindblast. Cyclops GOML's Leland. Wolverine deals with Wyngarde's illusions until he gets a kill shot or help from the others.

Leland just makes him weight absured amount and side him into earth core.

I've had enough of that almighty nannites bullsh%t, Battlehammer.
We are using TO-infected Pierce that is in X-Brig now, with power level shown in Young X-Men.
No nannites.

HF still wins the majority, though...

P.S. Funny thing is, Archangel in berserker rage can possibly solo HF in significant amount of scenaries IMO. Go figure )))

Unless the nanites work instantaneously or the HC is allowed to seed with combat zone with them before hand, I'm still going with the X-men for the win. Imo, Cyclops takes down every but Shaw and maybe pierce within the first few seconds of the fight...

What's really nice is that current Cyclops doesn't have an compunction about killing the enemies of the X-men. 🙂

ps I assume Emma will stay human in order to counter Jean's tp, but if not Colossus or Kitty are more than a match for her in diamond form.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Actaully am basing this off the fact he taken damage like eletrical assaults which would disrupt his technology but got up right off the bat. He seems to have provided protection to him self from thoses type of attacks, which is no surprize he protect himself from obvious weaknesses.

Hypcorit much? Your using one event of shaw hitting off pierce head as evidence that shadow cat can take him out.

The reason he never used the nannites on shaw is becuase he already had shaw captured. The issue you are refferring to is the same arc in which pierce took out number of x-men using his nannite technology. He even had nannites pesifically designed to take out wolverine. Seems silly to assume he would not uses such abilities to his advantage no?

Shadow Cat's phasing isnt electrically based. I dont believe its ever really been explained how she does it. And did my eyes decieve me, or did BH call someone else a hypocrite? If we are allowed to use abilities that have been shown like once, then I declare that from now on Namor is allowed to shoot electric blasts from his hands and control water with some weird form of TK

Isn't some of those Hellfire Club guys dead currently? They won't be much help as corpses will they?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Isn't some of those Hellfire Club guys dead currently? They won't be much help as corpses will they?

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I'm assuming they get to come back to life for this fight.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yet cyclopes, shadow cat and cyclopes would be dropp right away from nannites. Wolverine soon after then it colossus who gets mind raped.

Leland just makes him weight absured amount and side him into earth core.

Same strategy, except that this time, Cyclops GOML's Pierce and his nanites, while Colossus shatters Leland's glass jaw.

Leland's abilities don't have that kind of range or power.

Colossus already overpowered Leilands abilties iirc.

Wolverine has too if I recall.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wolverine has too if I recall.

Didn't it knock him down a couple levels into the sewer??

Yeah. He was still conscious too.

Jason Wyngarde was not a push over together himself and Emma Frost would overwhelm the other team.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Jason Wyngarde was not a push over together himself and Emma Frost would overwhelm the other team.

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How exactly? I think Jean can hold her on against Emma and Cyclops has the most damaging attack that could be unleashed in the first moments of the fight.

When Wolverine was knocked into the sewers, didnt he go one to completely destroy like dozens of the Hellfire Club's lackies in one of his cooler moments? And I agree, old school Emma before they made her omega level overnight wasnt nearly as impressive.

Originally posted by redhotrash
When Wolverine was knocked into the sewers, didnt he go one to completely destroy like dozens of the Hellfire Club's lackies in one of his cooler moments? And I agree, old school Emma before they made her omega level overnight wasnt nearly as impressive.

But he still has no real chance against leland.